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But why?! The USA is a paradise for women! Isn't that what Margaret Atwood taught us!?

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The real shocker is the number of people who don't.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Personally, I consider it a civic duty to help fix the country instead of abandoning it. If all the good people leave, things are gonna get way worse, and it's gonna start leaking all over the planet.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

True, true. It was "want" to leave though.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Unless you can alter laws about corporations, lobbying, and billionaires, the USA is going to be changed by good people staying there. The power of the people is now a facade, you'll get arrested for domestic terrorism charges or something

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I will agree with that statement 100%

however, there's a caveat where if someone's personal safety and life are at risk by the state, there's absolutely no shame in fleeing.

also the "stay and fix your country" is usually a racist dogwhistle. I am assuming you don't mean it like that. just bringing it up

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

It's already affecting the planet in extreme ways. I'm with you, we have to stay as long as there's a chance we can help.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Im not a woman and im not young but I would love to be somewhere else. Honestly I sorta worry whats happening here is being mirrored elsewhere so in a few years it may not matter.

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[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Or would if the could afford it.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

This is our home, not their home. Fuck the fascists.

We aren't all cowards like the people in charge.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

truly shocking. Who'd have thunk treating a demographic like shit and taking away all their rights would cause them to leave!?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, I get why women don't want to live here, particularly in states that have banned abortion. It's fucked up, and I don't fault them for abandoning their country.

I do hope enough of us keep fighting, though.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 8 points 1 day ago

I know, right? That's obviously not how people really behave!

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I have a good American friend here in Germany who has a great chance of getting a permanent status and later citizenship. She's already pretty good at German after 2 years and was offered a permanent local contract. She told me last week she's probably not taking the offer and going back to the US because she earns more and pays less taxes there. I asked about healthcare cost and all she talked about was how contraception was completely free in her american insurance and she has a copay here, how much less taxes she paid and she didn't like how the German law handles paternity issues (it's harder to get out of your obligations if your wife cheated and the kid isn't yours).

It was so weird. So many American women wish they were in her position and all she talked about was going back to the US due to paternity laws and the 10€ copay on her contraception which made her really angry for some reason.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

People be stupid, yo! I decided in 1999 I'd never again set foot on US soil because I'd rather pay higher taxes and have a sane society around me.

And now I pay lower taxes than a USAnian and have a sane society around me.

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't you miss it sometimes, not living in constant fear that someone with an AR15 could have a bad day near you or your loved ones?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

she didn't like how the German law handles paternity issues (it's harder to get out of your obligations if your wife cheated and the kid isn't yours).

Major red flag for her partner lol

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I don't believe this would be a major opinion by any woman I have ever known. This is likely a fictitious post.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why? She thinks it should be more in favor of the man and he should be able to easily up and leave anytime after finding out the kid isn't his.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I guess... But why even care about that unless you plan to cheat? I feel like most people would never even know that's a thing. There's really only one reason someone would look that up.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Its USA brainwashing, they feel they are fighting the "enemy" by not paying tax. Even though that extra take home pay ends up going to health care, or car expenses due to lack of transit etc.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 day ago

People are emotional creatures.

People also don't seem to accept that you often get something for paying taxes. Infrastructure, schools, food inspectors, whatever.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yikes. Does she wear a MAGA hat? She sounds like the type.

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[–] cdnwaffleiron@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Can’t imagine why…. So odd…

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, I would too if I went on a road trip across the country and gained and lost human rights as I crossed state borders.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The irony is the Conservatives wanted women's rights removed and have them back at home to make white babies, because they fear the mixed culture. And they may now be left with a country mostly made of men, which will obviously shrink their baby birthing plan.

[–] sureshot@discuss.online 7 points 20 hours ago

this forced birthing thing sort of reminds me of one child policy in a way... ironically no one is thinking about how this will impact men long term. women are just supposed to fulfill this need for companionship and reproduction without any reciprocation, even though everything on this planet, even breathing, is transactional. when we inhale we get oxygen and when we exhale we give CO2. it is physically impossible to get something for nothing in this world. if you want a woman to have your kids, you've got to pay her in some way. if you don't provide for her, and she can't provide for herself, it is physically impossible for her to have enough calories to produce a child and physically impossible for her to have enough money to raise it. that's just life. and if you try to arm twist women (or anyone or anything else) into doing the impossible, they're just going to totally disengage.

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Can confirm. Moved from the Midwest and dated a Mexican, family “othered” me from that point onward. That relationship didn’t work out for unrelated reasons but now being with a French, can also confirm we would both love to move to his country, but the place we can make to most positive impact is, unfortunately, here. We don’t plan on having kids because we understand it does truly take a village and that kind of support doesn’t exist in the U.S. especially not now. Breaks my heart because he would make an amazing dad.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Makes sense, I'm mostly just trying to determine where to go at this point.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Heyo, I've been living abroad over a decade, let me know if you have any questions about how to do it.

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You can get by pretty well with just English in Scandinavia, Britain, and Ireland. Many of the big cities also have a lot of English speakers.

The easiest way to move is if you can find a job or have a lot of money to invest. Also sometimes possible to get citizenship through your family. I'd recommend hunting for jobs on LinkedIn if you're in a specialized field, or see if there are any offices near you for a European company.

If none of that is possible for you, I would recommend moving to a large left-wing city with good trains like NYC, Philadelphia, Portland, etc. They'll be closer culturally to Europe, less vulnerable to fascism, and may give you more job opportunities toward Europe in the long run.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldnt mind moving out of the US.

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[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago

Saw a Fox News version of this article. The comments were nauseating 🤮

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I also want to leave this shithole, there’s nothing good here

Hi, I've been living abroad over a decade, feel free to ask me any questions about the process/reality

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"Also older women. And younger men. And older men."

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[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Who can blame them? From what I've seen out of young men and the rise of the "red pill" culture, women are more objectified than ever IMO

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Hi folks, I've been living abroad for 15 years-ish. If you're curious about leaving the US, please ask your questions here or in the Travel community.

Living abroad costs about $500 USD per month in most countries.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Well at least somebody is paying attention.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago

Who can blame them?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh, I'm an older woman who wants to leave.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

To anyone who truly feels this way, please consider coming to Australia.

We aren’t perfect, but we will damned sure treat you a lot better than the US has.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

If this is a suprise you're a fucking idiot

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