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AOC reacts to question if Chuck Schumer should remain leader (www.newsweek.com)
submitted 1 week ago by AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world
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When asked by reporters if Schumer should remain the minority leader, Ocasio-Cortez responded: "I think what is so important for folks to understand is that this problem is bigger than one person. And it actually is bigger than the minority leader in the Senate. You had eight Senate Democrats who coordinated...their own votes on this as well as you have two retiring members, many of them who are also up in several cycles from now, with the hope that people are going to forget this moment

The New York lawmaker added, "A leader is a reflection of the party, and Senate Democrats have selected their leadership to represent them. And so, the question needs to be bigger than just one person. We have several Senate primaries this cycle—I know I'm being asked about New York, that is years from now—I have to remind my own constituents because they think that this election is this year. We actually do have Senate elections this year, and my hope is that people across this country actually participate in their primary elections and selecting their leadership."

Schumer’s leadership has come under fire following a pivotal Senate vote in which eight Democrats joined Republicans to end the government shutdown, defying his recommendations. Representative Ro Khanna, a California Democrat, was among those openly stating, “Schumer is no longer effective and should be replaced.”

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Representative Ro Khanna, a California Democrat, was among those openly stating, “Schumer is no longer effective and should be replaced.”

To be clear, Peter Thiel's mouthpiece was demanding he "immediately resign" not that he be primaried.

Kahnna calling for Schumer to immediately resign in the middle of the Epstein investigation seems suspicious as fuck considering Peter Thiel is part of that investigation and that is one area where Schumer has actually been somewhat proactive.

Most Democrats are unhappy with the decision to cave, but AOC and Bernie have given almost the exact same answer to this question, and it hasn't been that Schumer must resign immediately. It's that this is a bigger problem than one person.

I hope to see her as president or vice president in 2028, but if not then she would make a kick ass Senate leader. I trust her and I hope people will remember to do the same when "progressive" imposters try manipulate the public using the label they've paid the media to give them.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

AOC will never be Senate Leader. That's not on offer whatever path she takes.

I don't think calling for resignation or not has anything to do with the Epstein files, but the same collective action problem that made few people publicly call for Biden to resign even though most Democratic voters wanted change. The people who decide these things aren't the voters and if you call for an establishment leadership figure to be purged and they aren't, you're in for a load of shit from them.

Like with Biden, Bernie and AOC also probably expect any replacement to be the same type of person playing the same sort of games. Schumer is particularly bad at politics, but his replacement won't be someone who might displease donors.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Khanna also wanted the party to kiss elon musk's nazi ass back when he had that falling out with trump back in early June.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As she often is, she is right.

schumer is very much not the root of the problem and anyone tho think it was just those eight who betrayed the American People... I got a bridge for sale, hit me up.

But this is now the second massive fuck up where a schumer led Democratic Senate worked for trump for no reason whatsoever.

schumer can stay in office, for now. But his ass needs to fall on his proverbial (or otherwise...) sword and give up speakership if only to acknowledge things. At best, he is horrifically incompetent and belongs in that cuck chair. More likely he was the evil bastard organizing the betrayal of every single Democrat.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

She's right, but also, cut the head off a snake and the rest will die. Schumer needs to be made an example of, by being removed from office, to incentivize the rest to fall in line behind progressives instead of corrupt corporate stooges.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Be that as it may, vis a vis Schumer, one of two things can explain his reaction to it:

  • he organized it behind the scenes, and his objections are just crocodile tears, and he’s a fucking traitor
  • he didn’t organize it, but could not credibly control members of his own party, and he’s not able or fit to lead the “opposition” party in the senate
[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Ok, but why do you trust Peter Thiel and/or the establishment to oust him right now and install their own Senate leader.

While the few trustworthy Dems aren't jumping on the bandwagon to oust him now, it seems pretty odd that the name Thiel's mouthpiece Ro Kahnna is floating to replace Schumer (Chris Van Hollen) also happens to be one of the last road blocks potentially standing in the way of Thiel's new crypto bank that just got preliminary government approval.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Lmao what?

I don’t trust Thiel or the DNC establishment further than I can throw them, for very different reasons.

I’m saying the caucus could absolutely oust Schumer as minority leader if they wanted to.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't agree with this framing that we can't expect better results just because oligarchs exist.

Yes they would love to influence politics even more than they already do, but this isn't an alien invasion... yet. These are people who stand to lose a lot by having influence exposed, and it's far easier to just bribe existing people to get influence about specific bills than try to create some kind of Manchurian Candidate and put themselves at huge risk of not just losing their own political capital, but also ruining the very party they wish to use to create influence.

We lean on our representatives in house and senate to oust people who aren't working. If someone else gets up there who doesn't work, we do it again and we keep fucking doing it until we get someone with integrity.

FFS I am tired of this doomering that discourages active involvement in politics. Yes it's bad, but we let it get bad, we have accountability to try to fix it.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm saying this as somebody who loves technology and progress, but I strongly believe humans are supposed to control tech not be controlled by it:

Fuck the oligarchy

The U.S. sold China their mass surveillance tech, and basically let them test it out for them and work out all the kinks.

During Trump's first term, Peter Thiel selected a CTO for Trump's admin, (now his current science advisor) who laid the ground work for this AI race with China bullshit. He argued that China's mass surveillance (that silicon valley created) is what enables China to gather so much data and gain the edge in AI. To "compete" with China, he argued the U.S. would have to accept something similar, and that any attempt to regulate that technology would only result in us losing the AI race.

Now here we are in 2025, and the psychotic "liberal" CEO of Palantir has just come out and said an authoritarian surveillance state is just the cost we will need to accept to win the AI race.

It's almost as if both countries colluded to create the illusion of a NeoCold War for their own profit, that they're now allegedly locked in a race to "win." In order to "win" this made up war, citizens of each country will just have to accept that a sacrifice of their human rights and privacy, is simply their patriotic duty, so that the handful of wealthy men controlling their government can maximize their profits and continue colluding with each other.

Again, fuck the Oligarchs globally and at home.

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Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race

The government is supposed to exist to protect the people from exploitation, not protect the exploiters from the people. Somewhere along the way we got that all kinds of fucked up.

The "freedom" to fall in line and be controlled by a bunch of billionaires who have never actually created anything of their own, who purchased all the tech they are associated with from somebody else, and then have the fucking gall to whine to no end about "meritocracy" and "free markets" while trading government contracts between their small circle of friends to help protect each other's state run monopolies and destroy any competition that threatens their grip on power, is not freedom and it's not progress.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Chuck should go back to his crypt

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chuck should help his daughter continue the family business.

She's be hilarious as a senator.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh God I didn't even know about Pelosi's daughter until just a minute ago. Apparently she's running for state senate not Pelosi's seat, so not quite as bad as I thought.

Christine Pelosi passes on bid for retiring mother’s House seat

Also, didn't know Schumer's daughter is a lobbyist for Amazon! Jfc. Regardless, I'm still not buying that it's a good idea to oust him right now.

I think he should be primaried and replaced, but given how hard the media is lobbying against him, it seems he has clearly pissed somebody powerful off more than he has really pissed off any of the Senate or House Democrats that I actually trust.

Either he was in on it the whole time, and let it happen, or maybe he legitimately opposed it this time, but didn't believe he could stop the others from voting the way they did.

If he was really "in on it the whole time" though, he definitely doesn't seem to be getting any kind of reward or protection. While I can see the argument that he possibly didn't push back hard enough, it doesn't make a lot of sense that he fully went along with what the establishment wanted, and is now also being punished by the establishment.

Like it can't really be both. Why would they want somebody who has been so loyal out of the way?

I don't buy that Ro Kahnna (who has been in Thiel's pocket his entire career) is going on every news outlet that will have him and allegedly speaking on behalf of all "progressive" Democrats, but AOC and Sanders have both declined to put the blame fully on Schumer when asked directly.