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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 160 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The fact that killing Roe v Wade didn't drive every woman in this nation to CRUSH Republicans in this last election shows that we are in a downward spiral with no end in sight.

Imagine someone taking a human right from you and then you continue to support them to take more rights away from you.

Yeah. We're fucked.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plenty of women are just as happy removing their own rights as men are because of religious nonsense.

Also add in "that leopard would never eat my face!" too for good measure.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Everyone wanted it left up to the states!" was a female coworker's favorite line after Roe was overturned. No, Republicans just wanted it left up to the states to pave the way for a national ban. This was coming from a woman that has previously had at least one abortion and is proudly child free.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago

"The number of rights you have as a citizen of this country depend solely on which arbitrary lines you happen to be between at this immediate moment" is such a fucking brain dead take, it's not surprising that Republicans love it.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics they spin a national ban when weed is now legal in some form without loopholes in over half the states.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fox News literally got up on air and told women maybe they shouldn't be voting since they leaned toward Biden last time and that was such a "disaster" compared to whatever the fuck this nightmare is.

Then they told a female host "good job you get a cookie now" or some shit when they suggested we should execute people for daring to defy Trump.

Made me sick to my stomach.

But of course, zero repercussions, zero pushback.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago

Any woman or minority on Fox News deserves any humiliating treatment they get.

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The election was completely compromised and so are all the numbers. Watching our country eat each other alive when we literally did NOT vote for this is the craziest experience of my life.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

We need to start screaming that the 2024 election was rigged. We ALL know it. Stop revering this "peaceful transfer of power" bullshit, that isn’t more important than demanding that our Democratic Elections be honored.

HitlerPig is going to win his 3rd term with 98% of the vote, and declare that the voters have effectively ended the 22nd Amendment, and the Dems will go along with it.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Part of the problem is we have let, Congress, gerrymander everything to hell instead of rioting about it years ago

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

Gerrymandering is a symptom, not the cause.

The US needs to get rid of first past the post and use proportional representation, then gerrymandering won't matter, and tye two party system will fall.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I have this worry as well. Bullet ballots are my main concern, I think that could have been the play this time around. You got other evidence?

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Right-wing and conservative women, please explain yourselves. 🙈

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemm.ee 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They see themselves as being special and having a sense of power within the family-unit -- The Queen of the Castle if you will. But out in the real world they're not special and are treated just like any other person. Which goes hand in hand with religious indoctrination and the sense of moral superiority that comes with it. They're a good mom/wife after all. While those other, feminist women are just whores. Running around, spreading their legs for everyone and getting abortions every other week.

They're just brainwashed and protecting their ill-conceived position of "power".

[–] BreadAndThread@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Also called internalized misogyny.

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is an awful lot of words to say 'they're fuckin' morons'.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's called understanding. Which is actually productive and helps counter their narratives. Whereas walking around calling people "fuckin' morons" doesn't really do anything.

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, your understanding the morons will absolutely help the morons to not be morons. Good luck with that.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Good luck with that.

Thanks :)

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

You're going to have to defer to their men for permission for them to speak.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This article mentions that they are trying to disenfranchise people with the citizenship proof requirements, and it also mentions that they specifically want to disenfranchise women, but it doesn't draw a connection between the two. In order for those to be connected, women would have to have more difficulty in producing that proof than men (which may be the case, but the article doesn't show that).

To actually answer your question, though, at least from the conservative women I've talked to, they are fine with that. The conservative women I know are weak, and they essentially want to give up responsibility in exchange for freedoms. They actually want women to be second class citizens because it means that they don't have to worry about anything (but they do have to just do what they are told).

There are old, conservative women who spent their lives as housewives who feel threatened by working women, so they want to maintain/go back to the status quo of women staying in the home (ignoring the fact that working class women have always worked). On the other hand, there are young, conservative women who do work, who yearn for the pretend vision of white, upper-middle class 1950s, where they get to just stay home and do what they want all day.

TL; DR: They essentially want to be like children, worry-free in exchange for less freedom.

P.s., there are definitely plenty of conservative women too stupid or unwilling to admit to themselves that the conservative position is women as second class citizens, but I wanted to respond with the perspective I've heard from people who seemed to be more honest.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In order for those to be connected, women would have to have more difficulty in producing that proof than men (which may be the case, but the article doesn’t show that).

Just for clarification, this part has been answered in other articles discussing this subject. Married women would have a tougher time meeting proof-of-citizenship requirements if they took their husbands' name (which happens 99.9% of the time) because their birth certificate would still have their maiden name. Since the voting rolls contain their married name and not their maiden name, the names wouldn't match which would be grounds for removal from rolls. This would be made worse for those women who were married recently, as it's more likely that even more documentation such as a drivers' license would also still contain their maiden name and would therefore not be considered acceptable proof.

Women would have to provide additional documentation (such as a marriage license), but it's expected that this alone would cause some women to consider it not worth the hassle and therefore not bother voting.

P.s., there are definitely plenty of conservative women too stupid or unwilling to admit to themselves that the conservative position is women as second class citizens, but I wanted to respond with the perspective I’ve heard from people who seemed to be more honest.

Sadly, there are women who openly embrace this line of thinking. Particularly those who were raised in ultra-religious households where women being subservient to men in all matters is the norm, and have no problems forcing those views on the secular women that they view as "whores". Mostly, it's a subconscious way of lashing out against the fact that they themselves have been oppressed for their whole lives and therefore feel better being the oppressor instead of the oppressed. But they are out there.

Married women would have a tougher time meeting proof-of-citizenship requirements if they took their husbands' name

Yeah, that all definitely sounds reasonable to me. It's just weird that if that's the point the article was trying to make, they should have supported it a bit.

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I appreciate you taking the time to do it. Conservative women confuse me so much.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago

Father will vote in my interests.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"This is not what I voted for"

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

“That’s just silly, why would I vote when my husband votes!” Blah blah blah, something in the Bible, toxic tradwife bullshit etc

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

💀 lol while actively pushing politics that erode their rights away

We should ignore them, since they're so proud about taking others voices and choices away.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is part of the mental bulletpoints I use to support the statement that it is over, these are just the aganol gasps of an already dead ideal. They've tried for many election cycles to disenfranchise voters. Voting roll purges, lack of voting locations, obstacles to voting, etc..

People are still acting like the Judicial will help things, but they overturned Roe v Wade, promoted presidential immunity, said it was OK for a Constitutionally unqualified candidate hold office.

Maybe the Legislature will help things, they couldn't even convict trump on two obvious impeachments, in addition to the rest of their crap. Congress is broken, and has been for awhile.

OK, so at least the voters can help things. LOL, look at who keeps getting elected, reelected, on both parties. Voters suck balls, and just to be sure voters don't get their voices heard, see my first paragraph.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'll go a step further. I don't believe the 2024 election was free and fair. Trump has mentioned multiple times about how he won PA because Musk knew how those vote counting computers worked. Plus, I've read that it's almost statistically impossible for a candidate to win all 7 swing states but less than 50% of the popular vote. We know there was massive voter disenfranchisement in the year or so leasing up to the election, I think this election was stolen.

I don't think he added votes, I think votes didn't get counted

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Sounds crazy, right?

No, not in the slightest. They will try anything and everything to get what they want, and usually succeed because there aren't any actual safeguards in place.

[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 4 points 43 minutes ago (2 children)

Colour me shocked: Religious zealots want to control reproductive rights and norms AND also control your children's education to endoctrinate them to their religion even more, for the sake of power and money. It's almost like history has shown this is always the case with religion, across the world. Wow, who would have thought. Craaazy.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

I say if a government is okay supporting and committing genocide live, why people think they are not going to do the same for its own people?

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

If things continue like this, one day the United States will be the Christian version of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The Seth Meyers clip from this article is from 2016

[–] TownhouseGloryHole@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

So weird seeing him in a suit.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago

If you won't let me vote, then you will hear me scream 🤷🏿‍♀️