I'd love to see NYC set up a voluntary escrow account for federal taxes.
You don't have to pay shit till taxes are due, have NYC sit on their withholdings and trump won't be able to build any ballrooms.
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I'd love to see NYC set up a voluntary escrow account for federal taxes.
You don't have to pay shit till taxes are due, have NYC sit on their withholdings and trump won't be able to build any ballrooms.
The problem is employers take taxes directly out of paychecks and send directly to the federal government.
Pretty sure they don't have to, you can opt out and pay the full bill come tax day. That would certainly put sand in the gears.
You have to pay quarterly if your withholding doesn't match you tax burdon. That's oversimplified but in general you cannot wait till tax day or else everyone would. You would just self withhold, leave the cash in a safe money market fund and make 4% on it till tax day.
Who cares? Do it anyway. The law doesn't fucking matter any more.
It does for us plebs.
An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect.
Illegal if a few thousand people do it, but defacto legal if a few million people do it.
We need a 2025 word for illegal things getting a pass due to systemic chaos in the same way we had truthyness in the early 2000s. I propose "derelegal" to mean technically illegal but unenforced due to systemic chaos or legal rot.
If withholding doesn’t match tax burden
AND difference exceeds the $1500 quarterly buffer. That is, you only owe penalties if your withholding is more-than-a-little off in your favor.
I mention that because it’s an important detail for a useful tip re: filling w-4s. Since the withholding percentage is just an estimate based on that form, including the number of allowances you specify, it’s usually a good idea to “tune” that number to prevent over-withholding and, preferably, err somewhat in your favor.
It’s better to owe taxes on your return. If the IRS owes you, it means you inadvertently gave them an interest-free loan last year.
Good thing it is legal for Trump and only Trump to meddle in elections. Yay.
This seems the require a better descriptor. Extorting an election.
This is what’s happening. We all get riled up saying NY contributes more to the federal government than it receives so Trump needs NY more than it needs Trump. Which may be true, but the reality is that Trump is trying to dissuade voters.
Other states should protest by withholding taxes, as well. United, yes?
That's not really how it works - there's no one big sack of cash that gets handed over by the state, individual businesses (and people) pay their taxes to the IRS directly, and then separately to the state tax agencies (obvs leaving out some of the draconian nuance here). States don't have a practical method of withholding taxes short of going to every business and demanding they stop paying the feds. While hypothetically possible at some point, it's not in the short term feasible.
There is a big sack of cash that gets handed over by the state: the federal payroll taxes for all the state government employees.
I disagree. I think having everyone send their federal taxes to a state entity for leverage purposes would be an interesting development. The individual is protected, and the state holds the bag.
Tbh one of my main takeaways from this presidency is that states send too much money to the federal gov and have to ask for it back. It feels like having more local control of how these dollars are spent would maybe even be bi partisan.
It is not bipartisan. The countries that take more than they send (primarily Republican states, I'm led to believe) would absolutely refuse.
Aside from it not really working that way, that's what they want, they want states to start acting against the union. They are intentionally stressing the constitution and governmental system so they can then use that backlash as the justification to discard more of the constitution.
It's a bully teasing and poking and pulling your hair and being annoying until you finally swing at them, then they use that as the excuse to beat the shit out of you. It's aggression and hate and malice being implemented as political strategy.
How the fuck...
When the ever loving fuck are people going to wake up and remember their government/civics lessons??
Those teach how things are supposed to work, not what to do when things don't work as they should. I'm willing to wager no government willingly teaches people how to coerce it into working for them, but at least America definitely doesn't.
Which is incredibly ironic for a country founded by terrorists (from the British perspective) who engaged in exactly that coercion.
I really can’t think of higher praise.
I may be wrong, but isn't NYC more of a money generator than it's a receiver? If that's so, I don't see how NYC would suffer, but it would widen the divide between such areas and poor dotational ones, making their people possible maga recruits.
Most blue areas produce money, most red areas (excluding Texas I think) are leeches.
T*xas very much does too, despite how much they like to act big and bad and independent.
i think people are still expected to pay federal taxes. even if trump blocked funds.
Like King George did? How did that work out?
There is still a system in place where states contribute their federal taxes before that revenue is used for whatever we have budgeted. A state doesn't take "their share" first, and states depend on federal funding for a lot of projects and services.
That said, a state with large surpluses can probably write policies to use their state taxes to pay for federal programs that people want to keep, but that's a snarled-up and anti-american system, the taxes are supposed to be used for the people, not be used like a cudgel to enforce political partisanship. There would be a lot of courts who would challenge this, which still might go in Trump's favor because of his corruption of the judicial branch, but that's a LOT of work and expense for something that isn't going to actually get the administration anything but ire from the citizens of one of the ~~country's~~ world's largest, most prominent cities.
Largely, this is as usual, a massive pile of bullshit meant to fit into a right-wing news site's headline ticker, because people largely don't read stories, they just read headlines and don't question it. This kind of rhetoric has always been about making his most powerful asset, his ludicrously stupid and armed and fanatical base feel like he's still big strong daddy choking everyone.
lol NY doesn’t need “his” funds. Trump needs NY funds though.
At this point there's little reason for blue states to remain. The US federal government is too far gone to fix and the kinds of ass wipe Democrats who would get elected certainly are going to do anything like expanding the Supreme Court or her tailing the power of the president so we might as well start from scratch
As somebody originally from New York State, I firmly believe that we could render the Federal government irrelevant simply through economic means alone
Actually, given how America works the only thing that would be necessary to completely destroy the federal government would be to have 40 senators, easily achievable, refuse to pass a budget. As we've seen without a budget everything grinds to a halt and eventually the federal workers are going to leave for other jobs. This might have already happened by sharing competence and the need to suppress the Epstein files but you could do it intentionally if you so desired
If Biden had an ounce of guts he would have started a shadow court with ethics rules and ignored the subprime court when it was clear they were off the rails.
Idk man, I see a lot of red caps at a certain party's rallies
red = obvious communist symbolism
I think those caps even say "make america great again" which obviously sounds like a communist slogan
I'd say we arrest these filthy communists 😏
So that would mean that New York could stop paying federal taxes, no? I'm sure it contributes more than it receives
I always find it hilarious how red states and their leaders are all about cutting off funds to the blue states that fund their miserable existence. "We will secede from the US!" Ok Boomer, good luck with funding yourself as all of you are so mismanaged that you would fail to feed your own population within the year.
The billionaires don’t want you to know this but you pay taxes to the states your business is located in. You don’t just “leave” because taxes. The businesses these billionaires own in New York are still subject to taxes.
What’s crazy is the right has “donated” more money to supporting cuomo than Mamdani would have even taxed them.
Trump has a lot of property in New York.
Sure would be a shame if he finally saw some consequences and lost a few dozen of them.
You have nothing to lose but your chains.
Whenever these fucks try and paint Americans as terrorists and threaten to cut off anything they create monsters they can't control. Anyone he attacks becomes wildly popular and almost assures them victory. Especially if he has his thugs come rough them up.
Fuck you cancer. You take far too many good people while skipping this piece of shit.
djt wouldn't be able to name the communist countries in the world to save his life. It is a very anti-American behavior to label half of Americans as enemies. The US totally includes an opposition party. Idiot still doesn't understand what a democracy is and how to stay in his lane.
The time to speak up is now. The place to do it is everywhere.