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  • MediaTek Filogic 880 processor
  • 1 x 10 Gigabit SFP port
  • 1 x 5 Gigabit Ethernet port
  • 4 x 2.5 GbE Ethernet port
  • 1 or 2 Gigabit Ethernet ports
  • WiFi 7 (tri-band)

OpenWrt Two is expected to sell for around $250 when it hits the streets in late 2025

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[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 76 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's not bad pricing wise. There's very very little prosumer gear that's multi gigabit and it's all much higher price, or it's just a PC with several NICs.

If and when we move to hyperfibre this is going to be pretty high up on the list.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hyper fiber??? I don't even have regular fiber here and y'all are moving on to HYPER???

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I have gigabit (0.7 up) and for 10€ plus (so a total of 40€/month. Just to annoy our American friends ☺️) I can get 10Gb symmetrical. The nerd/geek in me wants it but I just don't need it

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

As an American that lives in a civilized state in an urban area, I too have fiber and can get 10gb symmetrical.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but 1gb/s by me is $80/mo minimum...

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I CAN get that 10gb, I wouldn't want to pay for it.

[–] octoblade@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I am jealous. I live in Australia and because of where I live the only way to get anything symmetrical is enterprise Ethernet. As you can imagine, it is outrageously expensive. So I am stuck with 50 Mbps upload for the foreseeable future.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My best friend is still on 15Mb/s in central London 💀

I just moved to a new place with full fiber optic and it's the first place I lived in where that's a thing.

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lived in germany. Litterally 3 world country when it comes to internet. And i was not in some village but Berlin

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think a lot of the reports of high bandwidth/cheap rates around Europe are cherry picked. When I looked a nationwide averages, it doesn't seem particularly better or worse than much of the US. At least, not in the populated areas of the US. Rural access is another issue.

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[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hyperfibre sounds like some weight-loss supplement.

[–] alltomorrowsregrets@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With new HyperFibre I can shit through the eye of a needle at 20 paces!

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[–] JaumeI@programming.dev 63 points 2 months ago (7 children)

But the first OpenWrt-branded device has only two Ethernet ports, which is an odd choice for a router. 

Well, technically it's the only choice for a router... We are getting so used to the router/switch combo we will forget what exactly is a router. Which is probably good, I guess.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, technically there's no reason a router can't route between more than two networks. For example, I've got both fiber and cable Internet (for no real good reason -- I ought to cancel one and save some money) and I've configured my OpenWRT router to have two different uplinks, reconfiguring one of the four LAN ports to WAN2 instead.

I've also got the other ports configured for separate VLANs (walling my untrustworthy Chinese ONVIF cameras off from being able to phone home, for example), but I think that's technically not "routing" 'cause it's OSI layer 2.

I assume it's not common to have more that two networks being routed, especially in a SOHO environment, but it's definitely not impossible.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] lengau@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

This takes me back to my childhood... My dad would take me to the fair and get me a deep fried router on a stick and a roll of cat5.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

That's not entirely true. Having a router with multiple interfaces is useful for multiple physical networks like VoIP, OOB, dmz, etc. We use vlans a lot for that now, but it's not fair to say only two ports is the only choice.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A router is also an open-by-default device, and knows how to handle routing protocols like OSPF. It's not something you would usually use at home unless you're into that sort of thing. Things we tend to call a "router" are all-in-one firewall/switch/access points.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Only some have an internal switch, others just have multiple NICs.

[–] rice@lemmy.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is what a router is, switches are generally a separate thing. It is only the home hybrids that combine the two different things.

I have two separate networks in my home + WAN the router combines all 3 as they are designed for. The switches just switch the packets in those separate networks. (and not to get all fancy with layer 3 switches)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, I have a NetGate (pfSense) rackmount router/firewall with multiple ports. Isn't that pretty standard with enterprise gear now days? Only 2-port routers I've seen are ones I build from old PCs.

[–] rice@lemmy.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

more and more over the past like 5 years only. All the cisco and juniper enterprise went from like 4 ports (expected to be an entirely different network on each port and they go directly into a large switch) to having a lot more swappable port interfaces

like https://www.cisco.com/site/us/en/products/networking/sdwan-routers/catalyst-8300-series-platforms/index.html

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago

Are you too used to Cisco devices? Mikrotik routers also have multiple ethernet ports, that are not connected to an internal switch.

[–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was recently looking for a decent WiFi 7 router to replace my aging Archer A6. Then, looked up the table of hardware at toh.openwrt.org and almost none of the WiFi 7 routers from mainstream brands was supported. Glad to see something first-party releasing soon. I'll definitely buy one when it releases.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago

The Asus BT8 has recently had support added in snapshots.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

I just want standalone wifi7 aps with openwrt

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

From the image, it doesn't seem like it has rack mounts, which is kind of an odd choice. There are lots of switches that have a similar form factor, but can be put in 10" or 19" racks depending on which rack ears you put on it

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It really grinds my gears how many things could be almost trivially designed to be rackmountable, but aren't for no good reason. I guess in some cases it's for market segmentation so they can charge more for "enterprise" gear, but in a lot of cases they don't make any of that stuff to begin with so it clearly isn't.

I'm actually so fed up with it that I'm seriously considering learning how to do sheet metal fabrication so I can make my own damn rackmount cases for stuff (with blackjack and hookers).

Also, what I really want is a version of this thing that's rackmountable but has no wifi, and then another in the form factor of a ceiling-mounted PoE access point.

(And yes, this is just for my house, not "enterprise." It's not even a very big/fancy house; I just like my tech to be cleanly installed.)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I could whip up rack ears but making threaded holes confounds me. Even got a tap and die set, still can't figure it out.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I run an older half depth supermicro server with a sfp+ PCI card for my router. At this point, it feels like dedicated boxes just aren't worth it for routers except for enterprise where I need a support contract.

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was just about to cough up for a Banana Pi R4, but I might wait for this now.

[–] Geologist@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have a bpi-r4, it’s fantastic, totally recommended.

No idea about its wifi 7 though, I didn’t buy the addon board, and went with unifi u7’s instead.

Also, looking at the specs of the upcoming openwrt two devices, with only a single 10g port, it won’t work well if you’re getting 10gig service from your ISP, and have a 10g lan as well

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Have you heard of our lord and saviour the used Thinkcentre tinys? (Like m710)

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you do "roaming" / "fast-transition" solutions with the openwrt one and/or two? (What is called "mesh" by e.g. tplink)

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, 802.11k,r,v is supported and Dawn/usteer can handle steering.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Awesome. Thanks. What is dawn/usteer?

Edit: nvm, I see it mentioned in the openwrt docs. I'll check it out, thanks.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I'm in the process of setting up usteer myself but haven't quite finished. I think Dawn is easier but usteer seems more complete. Dawn doesn't require a central controller which usteer does, but the usteer central controller can run on an non AP install which makes for nice centralized information.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting that it will only have 1 10GbE port, I'm not really sure how you're supposed to use 10Gb internet service if you can't get 10Gb out of the router into your LAN.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The idea is that you use the 10Gb port as a trunk, then you use your switch to split it into separate physical ports using VLANs.

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