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"I think the big companies are betting on it causing massive job replacement by AI, because that's where the big money is going to be."

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This race to displace human labor with AI is a typical late-stage capitalism race to the bottom because it ignores something fundamental: workers are also consumers. No job, no money, no purchases.

In other words, all companies embracing AI are collectively working their ass off to destroy their own and everybody else's markets. It's global economic suicide.

But... capitalism being what it is and doing what it does, it only looks at what the competition does, expenses and no further than the next quarter. So individual corporations see AI as a way to reduce expenses and get ahead of the competition that does the same thing.

They all know AI will destroy everything eventually, including themselves, if they all do the same thing. But they can't help it: corporations look no further than their own selfish interests with the narrowest possible set of criteria, and the bigger picture be damned. Always.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Assuming they actually believe their technology is capable of replacing the majority of human labor in the not so distant future, they ought to be pushing for UBI. Having everyone get a guaranteed income would help ensure that there is still consumer demand capable of supporting their businesses. And it would help fend off the backlash that would come from taking jobs from a massive portion of the population.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Welcome to my thought process circa 2015.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're planning on most of us being dead one way or the other. The Planetary Solvency report predicts about half of humanity dead at +3C warming, which is basically guaranteed now before the end of the century, and likely way sooner than that. So the billionaire tech bros and fascists, instead of trying to mitigate the now unavoidable climate hell, are trying to extract all the talent and wealth they can from the rest of us before we all starve to death.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They’re trying to replace the labor of the half of humanity that’s gonna die.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They want us all in the service industry.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They want to replace service jobs with AI too.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

They already have. I went to McDonalds 2 years ago. They had a giant kiosk where you ring up your own order. I also saw an automated machine drop fries into the oil. I also saw an automated drink machine that did everything besides put lids on top.

Basically what I remember from the early 2000s as a job at mcdonalds no longer exists. I would be on register, and I had one guy doing nothing but fries, and another guy doing nothing but drinks. With this system, 1 human did all 3 roles. Because the register was eliminated. The fries was just a matter of scooping the already prepared fries into the sleeve, the drinks was just a matter of putting the lid on top. So now 3 empoyees became 1. And I had no idea what was going on in the grill. In my day you had 2 guys on grill and 1 guy doing utility work. Wouldn't surprise me if 3 became 1 again.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Reminder that the Luddites were not against mechanization, and not just made at the loom and nothing else.

They were a pro-worker movement who want to see the increase in efficiency translate to less hours for more overall pay, instead of just a drastic reduction in the amount of jobs with weekly earnings remaining unchanged.

They got made a joke, because they did gain some ground.

The looks were expensive and located in a central location, so that's where Luddite activity was focused. A modern equivalent would be something like all the AI data centers being built nationwide against locals wishes.

Especially before construction is finished. Delays in construction are very expensive and not exactly covered by insurance to my knowledge.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Then you don't profit, fucker. 🤷‍♂️

Figure something else out, asshole.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Narrator: They didn't.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But, like, who's gonna give them money for a product?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They'll create their own economy, with blackjack and hookers. Forget the proletariat.

[–] RegularJoe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The remarks echo what he said in September, when he told the Financial Times that AI will “create massive unemployment and a huge rise in profits,” attributing it to the capitalist system.

So if the middle and lower classes don't have jobs, the Wealthy are going to circulate money back and forth? So trickle-down becomes trickle-around? Trickle down doesn't work as intended. So trickle around is likely to fail, too.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

They want feudalism back. Ngl, the technology available today might make it work for them.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Isn't this venture capitalism?

So if the middle and lower classes don’t have jobs, the Wealthy are going to circulate money back and forth? So trickle-down becomes trickle-around? Trickle down doesn’t work as intended. So trickle around is likely to fail, too.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

pop goes the bubble

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AI is a massive bubble, and it will be popping in the next year or so. It will still be the case that no companies are making money from it. Why? Because it makes the technology more accessible, and allows individuals to do things that otherwise would have taken a team without AI. The level of competition is extremely high, and no one will be willing to pay for AI services. Profitable companies with multiple revenue sources like Google and Meta will continue to offer AI services for free, while companies like Anthropic and OpenAI will run out of money.

[–] ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a bubble popping, but a balloon deflating. We have enough hardware to simulate the 10 billion neurons in a human brain, right now they are focusing on the software. I don't think it will "pop and crash".

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That's hopeful, but that's never how it's worked before. When I talk about "pop" I'm talking about the financial. I think the debt will pop and a lot of these oddly named AI companies will dissolve with no money. The applications of AI will continue. The dotcom bubble saw a huge financial crash, and a lot of weird internet companies died, but the internet remained and we eventually got Netflix and Amazon, etc.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The internet was a bubble. That doesn't mean it's not useful. It just means that companies are overselling its value. There are too many companies jumping on the bandwagon, and not all of them with survive when the bubble pops.

It's still bad and destructive, but I think far too many people are interpreting this bubble as "if I wait a few more years, this technology will disappear and I won't have to worry about it any more". No, it's more like the internet where if people wait a few more years and don't use it, they will lag behind and be replaced by people who understand the tech. Companies that don't use it will die out.

I like Hank Green's recent takes on AI.

The level of competition is extremely high, and no one will be willing to pay for AI services.

Companies are already paying for AI services. You think everybody has a free account? Please!

I use LLMs every day in my job. It's a useful tool for programming, and it's saved me a lot of time searching for information.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You pay for them now, but once they become cheaper and more efficient no one will pay for them, and people will be able to run the models locally. I agree AI is useful, it's not going away, and will become more accessible and cheaper rapidly as time progresses.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Lol. If humans can't make money then they can't spend money on using your AI.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

AI as it currently is an excuse to lay people, off without saying they are laid off or fired.