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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 71 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

While it is true that ICE is state sanctioned evil, most of their henchmen are fucking idiots.

Their very sloppy attempts to disguise their faces while on the clock, is simply no match for crowd sourced doxxing, and the comprehensive and redundant databases that are currently up and running.

Best of luck with those attempts at anonymity, ICE chuckle fucks.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 29 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Congrats. You identified an ICE officer. They and their backers tied you to those efforts and now you accidentally flagged as an immigrant. But I am sure someone will figure out what happened to you when you are beaten and bloody in Sudan

The point of shit like this is to normalize the jackboots walking around scanning everyone. It is one, much more incompetent, step past "papers please"

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[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

Also, what’s stopping people from signing up for ICE then leaking the names of all their colleagues? Sign up, get paid, do as much good as you can until they fire you… so long as people are loosing jobs in this shit economy, I don’t understand why we haven’t seen a single case of this yet?

People who lost their job as part of the shutdown, what do you have to loose?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 weeks ago

I am just going to say this:

IT Admins usually has a LOT of access....

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think anyone should comment on this post if they would do such a thing, but the economy is hard rn, lots of people losing their jobs. And ICE has a huge fucking budget next year with lots of hiring… could be a win/win for society if enough people lose their jobs and need to turn to ICE to not only get paid, but also improve society as a whole.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Sabotaging from within is a romantic notion, but one that often doesn't work out.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well now I absolutely expect to read a future story about somebody working their way into ICE to do some good. But then before they knew it they were hauled out into the desert and told by masked men to execute a Mexican detainee like some kind of fucked up gang initiation ritual, to prove their true loyalty.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We have crowd sourcing, they have billions of dollars in tech and effectively a blank check. It's an arms race, and we've already lost it.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We have crowd sourcing, they have billions of dollars in tech and effectively a blank check. It's an arms race, and we've already lost it.

When it's go time, make yourself useful, and stay the fuck out of the way.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that this is going to be a 2A thing, since they are already stepping away 1A and 4A.

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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 42 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

I don't get something here. How do they have a facial recognition database that is accurate enough to even begin to attempt this? Yes, most Americans have some form of photo ID but many of those IDs don't require updating the photo more than once every 10 years. Also, not everyone has a ohoto ID. How can they possibly think this database is good enough to use for determining who should be arrested?

Beyond that, ICE has stated that they are trusting the database even over actual documentation. They say the database doesn't lie, even if you have documentation saying otherwise...

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 weeks ago

They don’t. These are fascists looking for an excuse to abuse people, not judges trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

[–] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 weeks ago

Seems like a really easy algorithm: are they not white? 🚨

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

They store the data from everytime you enter and exit the country. For citizens they claim to delete that data after a couple days- but I would not be too confident in that. So if you are a citizen ALWAYS opt out of biometric entry and exit. I've multiple times been told it is not an option, then being forced to wait 10 minutes- harassed about why I want to opt out, then it suddenly becomes an option. This is despite CBPs policy that you cannot be penalized for it. I have several audio recordings of this happening because I noticed how much of a pattern it was.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Those are optional. When they tell you to look into the camera, just hold up your hand to cover the lens and say "no thanks"

Sometimes they frown. Usually they just say "OK"

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you white?

Because I guarantee if I did this I'd be fucked.

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[–] minnow@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as we know it's not actually using any facial recognition at all.

It could just be using the scanned face to generate fake evidence of non-citizenship. It would be SUPER easy to make an app to do this using generative AI. You know, like Grok.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Could they be secretly using this to build a database? I read that they you can’t opt out of it and you can’t get your images removed from the database afterwards.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

In order to have something to compare to a database of scans, what do you think a scanner must first produce?

A scan of comparable quality.

Then [I assume] the hired bully is satiated by being given a screen that allows him to decide pass or fail, and accompanying red or green lights and buzzers flash as they either release or kidnap their next victim.

The data is uploaded regardless. Probably to Palantir.

God save us all.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Peter thiel knows about the Anti-Christ

Peter thiel knows about the Anti-Christ

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Camera -> picture -> face detection -> color grading.

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's why China is ahead of the US. They don't need to hire violent idiots for the photoshoot, they just fill the entire place with cameras and they work out the big data instead. /s

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

UK is now also doing the same

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

"Rules for thee, but not for meeeeeeee!!"

[–] logi@piefed.world 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

"Not a citizen" doesn't equate not being legally in the country. For a longer time with the appropriate work visa or green card, or for a shorter time with a tourist visa. Are they hauling off tourists and legal residents if they're not citizens?

[–] valek879@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes. Yes they are, we have many reports of them hauling off citizens, tourists, and especially legal residents.

It's actually the reason people are upset. Obama deported way more than trump but he used courts to do it and you know what, no spectacle! It was methodical and systematic and sometimes I'm sure it was cruel and shocking but they followed a well documented legal procedure which gave people some guidance on the process.

rump and his administration on the other hand don't give a fuck. Chaos and cruelty are the point. The rules and proceedings that we have built up are out the window because they give people too much warning. They allow people too much understanding of the process. There is not enough fear involved if they follow procedure. They like fear and people being afraid of them. It's part of why the inflatable costumes piss them off so much. Protestors being ridiculous and silly juxtaposed with ICE treating inflatable frogs and unicorns as a violent threat. It makes ice look small, weak, jumpy, and most of all, in the wrong.

But yes they are hauling off tourists and legal residents to answer your question. They then revoke whatever visa they're on including revoke permanent residence without due process.... It's what we in the business call really fucking awful.

You can have proof that you live here, have lived here for 20 years, legally although you might have arrived without documentation. You have a spouse, children, maybe even put together money for a house. And then ICE shows up to at you claiming that a DUI you received 18 years ago is justification for removal from the country and your family and your life. Oh and we're shipping you back to the country where you're on a hit list.

It's just cruel for the sake of cruelty.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

It makes ice look small, weak, jumpy, and most of all, in the wrong.

ICE is small, weak, jumpy, and most of all: in the wrong.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This exactly. And moreover, with SCOTUS saying it's totally OK to detain people in foreign prisons before their case (which is done online to further minimize the ability of the defense to actually do their job), they can just ship you to the country that has a hit on you, and weird, you wind up dead or beaten halfway there so you look nice and dirty for a judge who's already likely decided to throw you wherever (but now you look like "one of them" so there's an extra layer of justification).

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

And then they disappear you and don't tell anyone where you went

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Depends. How dark is their skin? Have they posted any "JD" "Vance" memes? How do they feel about the Blessed Martyr Charlie Kirk?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

2028: "This one hasn't pledged allegiance to Nazi pedophilia. Line em up against the wall with the others."

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, but they've been hauling off citizens, too

[–] nukeforyou@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Hey! new tech.. wear a mask (like we did in 2020)

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Like those cowards in ICE do today

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Some places are making it illegal.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago

I never stopped.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

This reminds me of the marvel comic line where the Avengers discover some guy that can supposedly tell the future and then Captain Marvel goes on a witch hunt using this guy who sees people's future even though the gang eventually figure out he's not always right. Anyway, WTF

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Which they’ve determined the software is infallible and sets precedence.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They can scan my white face and then get their phone smashed.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Watch out, we've got a badass over here

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

I don't know about you but I'm fucking pissed at the gestapo bullshit

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago

He (let's be honest here) doesn't need a blade: He has edge enough to handle anything.

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