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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 76 points 18 hours ago

She considers the church’s introduction of new garments “forward-thinking.”

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 34 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I see something beautiful and courageous and I have hope for humanity. Then I read this.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I think we can still see it as positive: an oppressive religion is allowing a minor concession on tradition. That doesn't happen every day.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 21 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes it does. This is how all* religion works it starts out more conservative then slowly it becomes more and more relaxed. Look at Jehova's Witnesses if you want to see something that most people would call a cult if only given their acrions slowly morphing into something approaching a regular religion in real time.

  • OFC not literally all religions and there are phases to it much like politics.

Edit: this comes across as more harsh then intended and I'm not sure how to reword it so I'm just going to leave this here. Sorry if it came across as harsh not my intention at all and text is hard to do tone in.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

Amish were always very good builders.

Then their church said they could have power tools and then they became unstoppable.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is a puff piece on Mormonism. Mormonism is a cult, not a religion, regardless of what Mormons (or tax officials that have been lobbied by Mormons to declare Mormonism a religion) say.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Every religion is a cult. You just seem to think some are somehow more legitimate than others. Every single religion is a device for control of a population. All of them, without exception.

Uh, yeah, I know all religions are cults. But some cults are worse than others.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It’s also why the garments were first introduced in other parts of the world where it was a more practical necessity, including hotter climates and where women typically wear dresses. Sleeveless tops, skirt bottoms and one-piece shifts were already available in Africa and the Philippines, according to the church’s online store.

He said a friend who served a mission in Africa got the sleeveless garments there last year and encouraged Walker to buy them as soon as they hit the shelves stateside.

So different parts of the world have options to wear different mormon underwear that other parts of the world can't?

“I feel like sometimes people act like it’s like a secret or something that we need to hide,” Walker said. “But to me, it’s just something that reminds me of promises I made with God, and so I don’t think it’s anything that I should keep secret.”

This is very confusing. If there are other styles that are mormon approved that he doesn't have because of his geography, does that mean those other people are not reminded of god because they aren't wearing the same undergarmets he is? If no, then there doesn't actually seem to be a correlation between what undergarments are worn and what promise was made to god, right? If church leaders can introduce new styles of undergarments, then where is god in the garments at all? If yesterday an undergarment wasn't church approved (and wouldn't remind a person of promises to god) the why, today, with the new undergarment approved would it suddenly take on the property of reminding of god?

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 36 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Were talking about the same mormon church that said drinking soda was a sin for decades, but then bought stock in coca cola and suddenly decided soda was totally okay for everyone

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

This is how you know religion is man-made bullshit.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

This part of The Book of Mormon musical basically says it all about their racism and flip flopping of rules:

And I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!!

CHORUS Black People!!

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago

Turns out that much of what the church says is “doctrine” is actually just authoritarianism.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 30 points 14 hours ago

I can't imagine something more "cult-y" than having to wear church-approved underwear.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago

Weird, I get my comfort from never having been Mormon.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 20 points 12 hours ago

I still hold onto my ancestors beliefs that Mormons are stupid and Missouri shouldve finished their fucking job. Because after over a hundred and fifty fucken years they are still overly controlling shitstains filled with utter entitlement while believing in shit so stupid and divergent from mainline Christianity the Gnostics are giving them side eye.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 20 points 13 hours ago

Ugh. Can we finally get rid of those fucking cults? It's 2025 goddammit. My head hurts reading shit like that.

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

Magic underpants wearing adults... We can stop there....

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao as a long-time exMormon it is VERY gratifying to get this news through a random online channel as opposed to my weird af TBM (True Believing Mormon) family yapping on and on about how "inspired" and "blessed" it is to have upgraded underwear

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Congrats to being an EX. Probably hard as shit leaving those damn all-consuming cults :(

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know why any religion thinks an all powerful deity and creator of the known universe cares about what they wear. If anything I would think they'd be upset we're covering our magnificent bodies.

They don't really, it's always, always about control of the masses.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

If it's just symbolic, why can't they just wear any other similar undergarment that isn't shitty?

Religious garments are pretty common; in Judaism you have the tallit katan, which has fairly vague rules for construction and wear.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn’t sound as profitable.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Considering they're selling them for like $5 I don't think they're really profiting here.

[–] bluesocks@lemmings.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Blech, mormons.