Wouldn't that be something to discuss, you know, before marriage?
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Vance Blasted as ‘Hindu-Phobic’ for Wanting Usha to Convert to Christianity
(www.thedailybeast.com)
Like an adult who doesn't fuck couches?
He hadn't converted yet, himself, by then.
Vance - who converted to Catholicism in 2019 as he was laying the groundwork for a political career - replied by saying that when he met Usha, “I would consider myself an agnostic or an atheist and that’s what I think she would have considered herself as well.”
Lolol.
They thought the Pope would be in charge if a Catholic was in office.
Instead it's peter thiel
So I'm going to make this point just for educational purposes but Hinduism is quite sophisticated and you can be atheist / agnostic while still being Hindu ie. believing in concepts like karma, samsara, moksha, and advaita.
In fact India's first prime minister who was a key figure in India's independence movement and also key in establishing India as a secular nation with parliamentary democracy was a Hindu atheist. His name was Jawaharlal Nehru.
Now I know JD Vance doesnt know this when he describes her as agnostic and the Hindu rebutting him is a reasonable defense of her religious beliefs in total. But for those with the spiritual sophistication to understand it, it should be understood that Hinduism and Atheism/Agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.
Lol how does Christianity and Hindu/atheist combo fair?
I don't know about Usha, but I've known a couple of atheist-Hindu-Christians that viewed the pantheon like a list of aspirational metaphorical figures, and they just added Jesus to the pantheon.
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Indeed, most xtianity sub-sects tend to hold to being exclusionary of anything else. So, while agnosticism and Hinduism might be accommodating, xtianity tends not to be. I'm pretty sure the Kirk kind of xtianity would be.
You're right that Christianity is exclusionary at the institutional level. Its a part of why the church has generally lost favor in society over time (in addition to rationalism etc.)
But individual Christians can be accommodating so in a universe where JD Vance isn't trying to turn the US into a white nationalist "utopia" it could work.
One of the core tenets of Christianity is that the only path to salvation is through Christ. That means non Christians are going to hell. That must be hard to accept (that your spouse cannot be heaven bound) but I think many Christians individually try not to think about this too much as they meet good non Christian people while living in pluralistic societies.
There are theological frameworks within Catholicism that seek to be more inclusive (implicit faith, anonymous Christians) but they are not widely accepted within Christianity (or even within Catholicism for that matter).
One of the core tenets of Christianity is that the only path to salvation is through Christ. That means non Christians are going to hell.
This isn't universally true (and is often a byproduct of most people thinking that the claims of Evangelicals are true; to be fair, it's in part because they're so loud and won't shut up).
Catholicism believes it's very well possible for non-Christians to go to Heaven (JD Vance, I'm sure, doesn't but there's a reason he's had to've been corrected by the Vatican multiple times).
You're absolutely right I was able to find this 2021 data from Pew:
Catholics are twice as likely as Protestants to say that people who do not believe in God can still go to heaven (68% vs. 34%). Evangelical Protestants are especially likely to view access to heaven as exclusive in this regard, with 71% saying that only those who believe in God can go to heaven, compared with 21% who say nonbelievers can gain entry, while most mainline Protestants (56%) say that people who do not believe in God can go to heaven.
+1 for "to've". It's a good word.
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Catholicism disagrees with that though! In Catholicism christ is necessary for salvation, and accepting him is the only revealed path to salvation but there is reasonable hope for the salvation of non-believers. That's why pope Francis was comfortable saying that he hopes hell is empty. The hope that through good works and changes in purgatory all people can be saved.
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Yes. I've run across many tolerant xtians (many in my own family) during my life and you are not wrong.
Now I know that some xtians would definitely say other xtians are not "real" xtians unless they believe certain things, but there are definitely xtian denominations that don't think the only way to salvation is through Jesus, so it's not just down to individuals.
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I’m butchering a 2 millennia story, but it illustrates how christianity fares in hinduism, and it even has some evidentiary support, so…
When the apostle Thomas was sent to India, he wound up in Cochin and began establishing a ministry or fellowship there.
He was frustrated by the lack of convincing required, or resistance to his ideas, without singular devotion.
The creator instantiating one more avatar is no stretch as Hinduism is pretty sophisticated in narratives, so Issa/Jesus just got added to the list that includes Krishna, and to this day you can buy hindu iconography with Jesus teaching compassion.
(Dude did succeed in forming a strictly Christian community though, and so arguably the oldest Christian sect is there.)
There's some speculation that early Christian philosophy (as in direct from Jesus early) was influenced by Jainism, which makes this situation even funnier.
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Sometimes, I think Vance plays up the anti-immigrant rhetoric because he wants to piss off his wife so he can be cast out to sleep ~~with~~ on the couch.
Poor counch. 😢
The sombrero is every bit as mesmerizing as it is mystifying.
The fact that the sombrero is incorporated makes this 1000x funnier. I laugh nearly every time I see it even though I've seen it probably dozens of times now.
After seeing this there is an insurrection in my pants.
"Convert the savage"
"C'mon, honey, show them you're one of the good ones."
How about he converts to Hinduism instead?
Hinduism doesn't want him.
That's okay, he's fucking Ericka Kirk now instead. Usha is about to be cast aside.
We really need to loosen up with the “phobic” term. It muddies the water of what’s happening in these situations.
Saying the dumb shit he said in no way indicates he has a fear of Hinduism.
He’s just an asshole that thinks his religion is the correct one.
Phobias are a serious thing. And using it in this context dilutes the truth of them.
Christian-supremacist would seem more accurate
I see, and which religion sanctions the racism and couch fucking?
'Murican Jesus Christianity
It's hard to be the antichrist without christianity.
Christian nationalism is at it again.
Nothingburger
We really need to loosen up with the “phobic” term. It muddies the water of what’s happening in these situations.
Saying the dumb shit he said in no way indicates he has a fear of Hinduism.
He’s just an asshole that thinks his religion is the correct one.
Phobias are a serious thing. And using it in this context dilutes the truth of them.
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