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[–] dethstrobe@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I actually didn't expect Khan to just abandon his people...but he does seem a bit self serving, so I guess it's not exactly out of character.

Also, we get some idea of when everything happens.

  • 2267 - Space Seed. 6 months later Ceti Alpha VI blows up.
  • 2272 - They complete the Venture, and it presumably takes off with Kali and Delmonda and maybe 2 others.
  • 2285 - Wrath of Khan happens. Khan mentioned it was 15 years after being marooned on Ceti Alpha V, but this is clearly 18 year difference. Khan could just be bad at keeping time. (this is assuming that memory alpha is correct)
  • 2293 - The Excellsior goes to Ceti Alpha V to investigate why Ceti Alpha VI blew up and what happened to Khan and company. Sulu also mentions Kirk's death, so we know this takes place after the Enterprise-B's maiden voyage from the opening of Generations.

Also, interesting reasoning for Ceti Alpha VI's destruction being from the Elboreans' nonstandard warp drive. I'm really happy they explained it. I don't understand it though. What kind of FTL drive blows up planets? That sounds more like a horrible weapon putting the Deathstar to shame.

Sounds like rehabilitating Ivan didn't go very well.

Well, one episode left. I have to say, this has been a pretty enjoyable listen to on my mondays.

[–] bgainor@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Khan mentioned it was 15 years after being marooned on Ceti Alpha V, but this is clearly 18 year difference.

Maybe it's Ceti Alpha V years rather than Earth years.

Haven't watched TWOK in a little while, but didn't Khan accuse Kirk of knowing Ceti Alpha VI was going to be destroyed? Now it looks like either he was lying then, or the grief from whatever's going to happen in the final episode has driven him mad.

[–] kcarr2015@mstdn.social 1 points 1 day ago

@bgainor @dethstrobe
I don't think Khan accused Kirk of knowing the planet would be destroyed; he accused Kirk of never checking on Khan's colony's progress. A valid criticism, all things considered.

[–] benfell@infosec.exchange 1 points 16 hours ago

@bgainor @dethstrobe

The chronology here is a bit backwards. The reason James Kirk marooned Khan is that Khan was plainly too dangerous a psychopath to transport back to a mental health facility.

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Destroying the planet you are travelling to with a massive release of energy on arrival is one of the problems of Alcubierre warp drive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

I'd say this is the most likely source of inspiration for the Elborean drive.

Not exactly what I was expecting to happen, but it's nice to be surprised sometimes.