In other words, "we want to make sure our email cookies definitely hit you when you open up our emails, as we are in fact a blood sucking shit stain ai platform that steals music from real artists, we might as well steal your data too."
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"We appreciate you want to use our slop service, but unfortunately our email system is guarded by the latest slop technology to prevent any trace amounts of humanity from getting through"
And so the AI slowly slops itself to death.
I'm disappointed you want to use AI for creative endeavors.
Thatโs the dumbest thing Iโve seen lately. You got your own email domain? Too bad! ๐
I have my own mail server and it has never been blocked ... If it were, clearly the garbage would have taken itself out. :-)
Loudly is slop anyway. Let it die.
I didn't know about them but I just had a quick look and now have one more reason not to use them.
I may have some insight here: in marketing there are third party services which will "verify" an email is legit. They do this by sending an automated inquiry to that email domain's servers. Many servers are set up to respond and verify, "yes this is a real address" or "no, we don't have an address like that."
Catch is that this allows marketers to confirm, yes, my message will reach a real person if I send it here, and they may send spam. So some services intentionally configure their servers to give no response or a less definitive response.
Without looking into it I would bet that's what Tutamail has done.
Still annoying that Loudly doesn't support it, but probably less a question of size/location and more of configuration.
technically it's hard to block those probes. in SMTP (the protocol used to deliver emails to target servers) if the query uses VRFY it's open about it's intensions, but RCPT TO reveals the same information. so the only way to block is an IP based block list. and those I know only list spammers, not probers.
Guess they dont want folks with custom domains either then.
custom domains pointing to major providers are good i bet
i mean they'd probably get a lot more customers if they just sent email verification on registeration and purged accounts that aren't verified after 30 days instead of just hardcoding only the big three email providers.
Reply that this whole interaction has confirmed that your email address is valid and recognized.
Say it more loudly for the people in the back so they know which company to avoid
I've experienced this with Merlin BirdID by CornellLabs. My suspicion is that they are using some sort of API to verify email existence but only against aboveentioned "big providers". Of course that wouldn't support any of my selfhosted email domains. On the other hand they didn't verify my ownership of said email, therefore I've registered with birds@gmail.com, that I don't control and I sincirelly apologize to whoever does... For my use the account has no value whatsoever anyway. Also, I've checked and my login information are gone from the app now, so maybe the've fixed it already?
Anyway, I'd love to know what "valid and recognized" means. The only thing that you need for mail delivery is a valid MX record and a mailserver sitting on the end of that record. As an admin by trade, I suspect this is not malicious by design, it is just a lousy/lazy developer who trusts the statistically probable answers of his AI agent more than he should. ( Oh - it's an AI app - that makes it almost certain ๐.)
The real response is veiled behind the usual corporate lingo. Here's what's actually being said:
You're right. The system is buggy and the IT guys still haven't fixed it. The easiest way around it is to create a disposable address at one of the major email providers. It sucks, but that works. Good luck.
In a way, the response was kinda humane.
