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So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:

  • Reviews are mixed: not a great start
  • Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
  • 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
  • 175 euros DLC's: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there's another 175 fees for content?
  • purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

And they don't understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

This is just a random example. I've quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.

To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)

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[–] cron@feddit.org 61 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Take a look at the reviews, and find this insanity on the top:

need to be connected to online services even when you just want to play singleplayer campaign, and keep getting connection errors.

Thanks, I'm out.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So in theory.. you can not even play single-player campaign because of kernel level anti-cheat + internet connection. Even if Wine/Proton would allow you to start the game.

[–] cron@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True. According to protondb, it is not possible to even start the game.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 week ago

What a shame. But to be expected..

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Until the support stops and you have an unplayable game in your library.

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[–] Lazer365@feddit.nl 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you still play CoD nowadays then you are actively supporting the problem.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

From time to time I'll still look at their steam page during sales, because I'd like to play a blockbuster single player FPS where I can mindlessly mow down bad guys, with good story and production value.

But the price point and reviews always turn me off... Do you have a good alternative to recommend?

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If you want a CoD game, pretty much any CoD up through Black Ops 2 is still decent, but only if Activision actually let's the game go "on sale". Halo games have a fantastic story (up until 5 at least) and the Master Chief Collection is usually on sale for $10.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are lots of valid abbreviations that CP uses other than child porn.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

And it will never not be funny

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reviews are mixed: not a great start

More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It's basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So "mixed" means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn't, which is quite damning.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's for people with more money than brains.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey some of us are poor and this statement still describes us

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You are missing the most important issue. It only runs on Windows!

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[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

To be fair that icon doesn’t mean much of anything cuz you can just force compatibility in Linux and use proton, you just gotta manually do that in properties.

This is probably windows only because of kernel level anticheat though so it probably still holds up.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What computers and airconditioners have in common is that they become useless when you open windows.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I haven‘t encountered a Steam game that doesn‘t run on Linux so far. They very likely exist but anti cheat, third party account requirements, or an online connection while playing don‘t have anything to do with it as far as my games go. Same goes for GOG, Amazon Games and Epic Games on Heroic launcher. It just works as far as I can tell.

[–] Klajan@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are lucky then. If you play lots of multiplayer games you are bound to encounter one that doesn't work.

Most modern Call of Duty and Battlefield games do not work for example.

According to areweanticheatyet.com only 40% of Games with Anti cheat work on Linux...

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Short answer: you wouldn't buy this game, given your valid criticisms.

This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don't understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

When people may get into a competitive game, data shows that they commit to it as their primary game.

It becomes a part of their identity. You see things like Leage of Legends going strong despite a slow down in new players - people just commit to it for better or for worse, likely because most of the skills they’ve gained in it and friends they’ve made will not transfer to other games. Even other FPS games have different nuances that are non trivial once a player becomes serious about winning.

Take Wild Rift vs Mobile Legends Bang Bang. MLBB is objectively a worse rip off of League of Legends and the Chinese game Glory of Kings, but it was first to market on mobile. Now that League has released their mobile version with immense polish and quality, many mobile moba gamers just aren’t interested - they’re already totally invested in their main game, despite it being proved in court that it’s a cheap copy. (Not cheap as in $$$ though)

When you’re a kid, spending time on any competitive game will be fun (if you can handle the baseline toxicity) since you will start bad at most of them. When you get older there is a real cost to switching, you will not have as much fun until you build up the years of muscle memory that would be needed to even approach your skill at the previous game.

Because of the lock in, if a competitive game finds a sizeable enough player base and lasts a good handful of years, the devs essentially get free rein to milk their cow as they see fit.

[–] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

You don't. You play single player games like me and get to experience cool stories instead of dopamine lacking rage inducing PvP games.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is plenty of shit on steam that I wouldn't buy, just don't buy it

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

It's not for you, you are not the target audience. The target audience is the people who buy MADDEN/FIFA every year.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Thats the neat part, just dont.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why would anybody support genocidal imperial propaganda in their home?

I made that mistake years ago with COD. Never again.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ah it's very simple, you would buy this if you'd made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And even then there's Battlefield 1 which got all the content unlocked now, is fairly cheap, the servers are going strong, and it's really really fun.

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[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.

Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)...

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Why would I buy this?

I can only think of one reason, because it's the game your friends are playing.

You have two choices; buy the shitty game with the understanding that the game itself is not what matters but the time spent playing with your friends. Or, don't buy the game and spend the next few weeks, or months, not playing with your friends and hope they grow bored of the game soon.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's CoD. You're asking why people drink coke if you don't like coke.

Also, steam FPS reviews are full of people on full tilt. Use better review sources.

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bro the CoD ship sailed years ago. They just don’t innovate and release the same shit year after year. Buy something else. I’d recommend Factorio.

[–] mellow@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Quite the leap going from CoD to Factorio tho. 😅

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[–] actualaccount@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got Necesse too! It was about 6 bucks. Can't beat that price. Runs on a potato also.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

I should play that again, probably start a new world/char because so much has changed since I got it almost 4 years ago.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This kind of thing is why I dont get excited for steam sales now. Oh, 50% off Recent AAA Game? Haha, yeah, half off the base price, but the entire game is DLC now and each of those is still full price, and there's a dozen of them.

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[–] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm all for hating on CoD, but the DLC "content" is skins and minor cosmetics, it really doesn't add anything to the game and isn't necessary at all. Also the CoD Points are for cosmetics as well. There's a lot of shitty things you can and should say about Vanguard, but it is not pay to win.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why pirating AAA games is morally justified.

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

And they don't understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

They completely understand... the numbers saying that they're making money hand over fist and the number of people who care is sadly minuscule.

These games have hit a critical mass where people will casually buy them because they're friends are and so its a common ground game to play with buddies.

I don't think we can ever rely on consumers pushing back on anti consumer practises because of the reality of people.

Not everyone can afford to care about every issue.

As a result, boycotts are very unlikely to work in the modern world. There is just too much all at once for any one person to care about all of them, so even if you, lets say, care about 1% (a really high estimate) of things that are wrong in the world, and are willing to act, if we extrapolated that out to the whole population, the only things that would move would need to have double digit percentages of peoples care overlapping before anything stuck.

Really, the answer is that you simply need a government that cares about its people/consumer rights.

The USA and Canada, both are very far away from having governments like that.

Europeans are a lot luckier, but yet still, there is plenty to go.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Some dudes seem to be required to buy every COD game and every new sports game every year and that’s it until they eventually try to sell it all as a bundle on Facebook Marketplace.

I know this is a steam page, but y’know.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

You wouldn't. You'd buy Titanfall 2 for a whopping £2.49, and play a great (if short) single player campaign and then delete it.

If only for Effect and Cause, which is right up there with the best levels in any game.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unsurprising, it's not for anyone but those who spend a lot to be able to frag the other one.

I stopped playing MMOs and online shooters a long time ago. Instead dividing my time between actual cycling and playing single player adventure games.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

I wish Steam would put the 3rd-party requirements nice and obvious above the buy button. Along with "uses AI content", "in-app purchases" and "always online requirement" banners too. And more too, every game should be shamed before users get to the buy button.

[–] mcforest@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe because there are still people who are not tired of Call of Duty, liked the predecessor and are still looking forward for a sequel and play it with their friends?

Oh wait, this isn't even the newest CoD? Probably they just forgot to update the prices. Probably forgot it even exists because there is a new one.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

They dont want people buying the old games, even their 15 year old ones are still full price on purpose. They want you in the latest game each year, exposed to all the predatory extra-transactions, then they want you to do that again the next year and the next and the next... the games are not priced like that because they "forgot", it's a business strategy.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't forget, they just want full price forever.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nintendo Intensifies

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