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Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The president added of Democrats, "We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They've never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension."

JFC. Republicans do this every single time Democrats have control of Congress. And, every single time...Democrats give them what they want, in order to get a deal made. Now that Democrats are finally following the Republicans example, they fuckin' lose their shit, and everything falls apart.

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 13 points 1 week ago

And idiots lap it up and moan about how the Schumer shutdown is going to impact their appointment at the doctor next month if all those crazy socialists, like Nancy Pelosi, don't listen to reason.

[–] kittybeer@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why can't we have a no confidence vote and get rid of the party in charge?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Anyone else remembers the Cheeto proclaiming that in just two weeks he'd have a healthcare bill that would be better than Medicare?

Pepperidge farm remembers

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Someday the money from the tariffs will trickle down to the common American. Just like the tax cuts for the rich from the 1980s.

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[–] G3NI5Y5@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

US entering the "third world country"-club. Congratulations.

[–] DNS@discuss.online 28 points 1 week ago

Bro, the US has been a 3rd world country masquerading as a 1st world country a lot longer than Trump. The US propaganda machine is top tier, fooling American citizens that theyre greatest enemy is each other, as well as promoting individualism at the cost of the individual.

Richest nation on earth yet the majority are 1 health emergency away from bankruptcy, to people skipping doctor visits due to how expensive our Healthcare is while the rest of the world gets to enjoy free healthcare. Wake the fuck up, "entering" like thanks for the depressing ass chuckle this morning.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There are almost 800,000 homeless in the US, you could have an entire city of just homeless people. US is already a 3rd world country. Has been for a long time now. ICE won’t even round them up cause even ICE doesn’t want to deal with them incarcerated.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years.... shit better be there for me when its my turn.

Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

25 million staving homeless men with a purpose

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Some cuts may be necessary in these trying times

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[–] figjam@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok, but hear me out. We didn't have a ballroom in the white house for fancy parties.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oh fuck. You’re right! Totally worth it. We’re so selfish.

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[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek. They're happy to state what each side is saying about the situation, and they fail to do even the most basic research to fact check any of the statements.

The article cites Republicans as saying that Democrats "want to provide free health care to illegal aliens". The heavy implication is that without the budget Reps are trying to push, we will be paying for that or that Dems wouldn't approve a budget that didn't - which is just patently untrue.

Ignoring that hospitals will, of course, provide emergency care to anyone (not for free, mind), and focusing on the idea of major U.S. benefits programs providing help to undocumented immigrants... they just don't. They go to Americans and qualifying resident non-citizens, i.e. green-card holders, etc. who have been here 5+ years (Medicare) or have paid enough into the relevant taxes (Social Security). Medicaid is similar.

This is stuff I was previously familiar with and was able to verify in minutes using basic internet resources.

Republicans say or imply benefit money will go to undocumented immigrants unless this budget is passed, which is patently untrue and easy to check on. That Newsweek gives Republicans voice throughout the article to their claims, some false and some unfounded, but only gives one Democrat a quote - one that focuses on the shutdown itself more than the funding/benefit claims - is bullshit.

I'm not saying it's wrong Newsweek didn't give equal "time" to each side. I'm saying it's wrong they spend so much of the article quoting misinformation from Republicans without any clear fact-checking.

There's a quote, one with various forms and attributions, that posits to journalists:

If one person claims it's raining and another says the sun is shining, the media's job isn't to quote both—it's to look out the window and report the truth.

Our media is bought and paid for by wealthy interests who want all this.

It's actually ironic that MAGA were right that a lot of mainstream media couldn't be trusted... Just for the wrong fucking reasons and instead of being skeptical and thoughtful they just started listening to random asshats on the internet.

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[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's planning on getting rid of those anyway, so he can continue to fuck right off.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

But think of the trillions!

Of tax dollars his donors will save.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Gone to funding ballrooms and Argentinian farms

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Warns? Must be a rally. If it were to his donors, it'd be "promises".

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

It's a warning in the same sense as someone warns that your building might burn down if you don't pay protection money.

Most of his mind might be gone, but the extortion part is still operative.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To be clear, the day SS is gone is the day I'm willing to pick up a gun and get this party started.

And I know I'm not alone.

This society doesn't need to continue functioning the day SS stops functioning. So the treasonous Republican party can go ahead and do that and find out what happens next.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

The sad thing is, most of us (Americans on Lemmy/Piefed) are probably not going to see why we need social security.

It's basically a government ran pension plan if you can't work. Most of us can work and are. So we don't see why we invented it during the great depression to aid in a social safety net when shit goes south.

And Trump is most likely going to continue plummeting shit into an economy as bad as the Great Depression. Some already had the question of "Do I eat today or do I save up to pay for rent this month?" And Trump isn't the person to solve it, only make it worse.

Most of us probably don't claim the funds from it, and go "Oh this is just for the elderly, not for me. I'm 20 to 30 something and able bodied, this is for when I'm 60 something and walking with a cane."

When Trump guts it and if we have any resemblance of the federal government when we need Social Security, this will probably have lasting effects when we need to claim our benefits.

And the even sadder part, all of his voting base will just nod along. "The gubberment took money from muh paycheck, says so here in muh paystub, fucking woke commie Democrats. Da woke took muh $100 a month, I had to spend that on Trump hats!"

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

"I have to help my Argentinian friend!" Trump blurted.

[–] Auk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I heard Epstein’s island is lovely this time of year.

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Hypothetically, let’s say the administration cancels social security. What happens to all of my money I’ve already paid into the system? I’m not at retirement age yet. Are they just going to steal my investment?

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You think?.......of course it's stolen

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Does that mean I can stop paying taxes on it too?

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago

If it's so important, Republicans should accept their very reasonable changes, Donald.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The only reason Trump cares about the shutdown is because his people are telling him he will be blamed the worse it gets.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 week ago

But republicans control every facet of government right now. They can easily end the shutdown right now.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Better not be gone before I am or I will hunt you down like the devil cur you are, you diaper wearing sack of shit

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's some gangster bullshit

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (9 children)

"Surrender or it's your fault that I kill you!"... Fucking cartoon character

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (17 children)

No he won't. EVERY Republican knows that if they end Social Security, every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.

Following WWII, Dems controlled Congress for years, because Americans didn't trust SS in the hands of Republicans. Eventually, even Republicans had to admit that it was untouchable.

He won't dare touch SS, or it will be the end of the Republican Party.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

There have been so many things in the last some years that should have been the end of the Republican party...

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

I don't think Republicans are able to process any conherant thought since 2016. If they suddenly don't have their Social Security payments, Trump will point at someone else and they'll just drool and nod along with what their cult leader said.

Plus how many rural dipshits were hurt by Trump in his first term and went for him again? How many are hurt by his even more expensive erosion of things and still think "This will be worth it, I just know the libs are more hurt by this."

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades."

Your optimism is blinding. The Dems will control Congress for 2 years, maybe 4. 6 at the absolute maximum. Your average Republican can watch their loved ones die because of Republican policies and blame Democrats 2 years later.

Also democrats won't do anything to make structural change in the economy or wealth of the country, so even if given the reins of power, they will only succeed at not actively making life worse.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The litterally blamed Dems for talking about how bad COVID was gonna be, causing their oppositional-defiant toddler logic brains to reject common sense measures to prevent getting sick and dying.

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