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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Air is on fire.

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Unless the fire was in space I suppose - which can't happen, so yeah, air is always on top of fire.

Edit: nope, I was wrong. Air is not always on top of fire :-P.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What about chemicals that create their own oxygen source when burning?

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reaction propagation is always from the ignition source to the media, so the 'fire' is always on the outside. Even if the inside is in the process of quickly becoming the outside.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, I get that. Not why I asked the question.

If you have a compound like potassium super oxide chatch light in a vacuum, does it still burn because it has it's own oxidizer?

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By itself in a vacuum, no. Under gas pressure, when contacted by water it will react from the point of contact until all reactants are complete. I wouldn't consider the reaction to be 'fire' though. At least not personally. Drop some hydrocarbons in the mix and you'll get a fire as the oxygen produced gets something to react with.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Speaking from experience with Potassium Superoxide, once it goes up the flames are impressive in atmosphere.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would absolutely expect that to be true. Generate enough oxygen, and damn near everything suddenly wants to be a gas that's paired with it.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, foof doesn't burn, it's destroys everything around it with hatred for the universe that made it exist.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, that is how rockets get to space, for example. Earth's atmo is ~21% Oxygen. So that is giving flames a boost. Careful not conflate "burn" with the presence of flames. In a vacuum, the flame could only exist briefly because there isnt the available Oxygen from the air. The reaction will (or might?) still happen, but without the oxygen to produce a flame.

BTW, this has been studied in microgravity aboard the ISS.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Excellent point. I edited my comment to say that air is not always on top of fire:-D.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's nothing, in Scandinavia it's "there is fire in things".

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe the dutch partly learned from the vikings because we do it the other way around: "The thing is in fire!"

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

My mum says I'm fire

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah but then where is shorty fire burning?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

A hot air balloon is kind of on fire, at least when the burner is running

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is fire even a thing or just, like, a symptom? Like shadow and cold don't actually exist, they just describe the absence of light and heat respectively. 🤔

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fire is essentially a name for a chemical reaction. So it's probably more accurate to say "thing is undergoing fire"

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think it would make more sense to say "thing is firing", similar to how we say "thing is freezing" or "thing is falling"

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Fire blanket, it’s briefly “on” fire, until it isn’t anymore. Or until fire is on it too. Fire blankets are the liminal spaces of fire.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

If fire is on my ass hair then isn’t my ass on fire?