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[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 109 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A false flag attack on our warships is an American tradition. It's how we start our best wars.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The CIA knows that America doesn't like it when people touch our boats

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did somebody say Boats and Touch?! DONT TOUCH OUR BOATS!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

HabitualLinecrosser has entered the chat

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 78 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Don't know if it's true, but if it is, kinda funny that Trump's CIA has been outsmarted by Venezuela.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

South Americans broadly have been dealing with the CIA for a long time. Even the Romans knew not to fight the same people too many times because they’ll get hip to your fighting style and they’ll eventually beat you at your own game.

Yeah it's a big claim, would be cool to eventually see evidence it was true but I'm not sure how they'd ever be able to prove it. I doubt anyone gets a wire transfer that just says it's from the CIA

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hey man, DOGE cut us to the bone, there’s only 3 interns and a middle manager left

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago

And all the leading positions in every agency has also long since been replaced by moronic Trump sycophants whose only qualifications are how far they can get their tongues up Trumps sphincter.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Staging a false flag attack on our own troops in order to manufacture consent for a war with the country holding the world's largest oil reserves?

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago

It's okay and responsible to be skeptical of the Venezuela's governments claims but given past evidence this is hardly an extraordinary claim and would be hardly surprising.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

“It is the same imperial script as the Maine ship and the Gulf of Tonkin: fabricating a conflict to impose interests alien to our region,” Pinto wrote in an online post on Telegram, according to Google Translate. “Venezuela is acting firmly and responsibly: a CIA-funded criminal cell linked to this covert operation is being dismantled on our territory."

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

False Flag attacks are a military adventurer's favorite method to start trouble. America has used it multiple times to start wars.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Interesting thing about false flag attacks is that many of them are not real false flag attacks but are attacks that have been carefully chosen to be allowed by ignoring the intel regarding them.

Israel for example had been notified by many countries of an incoming attack by Hamas with an extremely accurate description of what would happen, but decided to ignore it and not even strengthen their border defenses. It was in Israels best interest as it would give them an easy reason that would make their people allow them to ramp up the genocide.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Valid.

Before 9/11, the Bush administration had several clear warnings that something serious was in the works, and they totally ignored it. It was even put into his daily briefing that Al Qaeda was planning an attack that involved flying planes into buildings, but it was later speculated that bush probably never even saw it, since he often skipped reading his morning briefings.

If they had stopped to consider it, they would have realized that they had been receiving reports from flight schools of Arab students wanting to learn to steer planes in flight, but not take off or land, and one guy already in custody. Just a little bit of investigation would have exposed the whole thing.

But they wanted a Middle Eastern conflict, so all of it was ignored, with easily predictable results.

A False Flag event? Not by precise definition, but essentially the same thing.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah I honestly found the timing of that suspicious given Bibi's trials coming up and plummeting popularity at the time.

I could see the same with 9/11. Various people didn't need to actually be involved with terrorism so much as "let it happen" and plan on how to profit from the response

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Operation Northwoods.

Americans would have died if it was greenlit as the goal was to go to war with cuba