Just hitting random notes counts as jazz, right?
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The whole point of ~~generative AI~~ plagiarism laundering machines is to make it harder to tell you're consuming a soulless regurgitation of legitimate talent.
tbf, a lot of pop and generic stuff is incredibly soulless and it was made by people. One silver lining is that hopefully the artistic part will be more embraced in music because the driving force for a lot of it is money and not art. Not defending AI in any way though, fuck that bullshit to hell.
I hate that AI is controlled by a few huge corporations and that it consumes ungodly amounts of resources. Otherwise I'd be completely fine with it. At least 90% of anything is shit anyway and everything humans create is built on what came before, so I think AI just mimics what we've been doing since forever. But as it is controlled by just a few assholes who burn the planet down even faster I am against it.
People have free will and while most people don't bother using it, a few in each generation think differently. Those are people like Einstein, Picasso, Hypatia, Curie, Yeshua, Tolkein, Wachowski, Ray. They bring genuinely new ideas into the space of human thought. If AI writes all the books, we don't get any more Voltaires. If AI makes all the movies, we don't get any more del Toros. If AI writes all the songs, we don't get any more Hendrixes.
We get Hendrix copycats, sure. But nobody is going to change the game the way all the people I listed changed the game.
That is never going to happen.
You can compare it to making clay pots.
We have mastered the art of making pots, we have entire factories that do nothing but make the most beautiful pots in all manner of shapes, sizes and colors. Millions of them each day. Nobody in the rest of human existence should ever need to make a clay pot by hand ever again.
Yet we still do.
Because art is something human. It makes us who we are. It is fun to express oneself. And no amount of automatization will ever take that away. We can be living in space and there will still be people making clay pots.
Whatever your view is on AI.
If you don't notice, why does it matter?
Like seriously, if you are fine with listening to crap and are enjoying yourself. Why does it matter who or what willed it into existence? Isn't the whole point that it is amusing? Plenty of crappy artists making crap music as well, if you like em you should be able to just enjoy them.
It's over
We are getting closer and it makes me very sad.
There were some songs (of different genres) which I thought "huh, sounds really good" and then noticed, that it was AI (either by a disclaimer in the description, people in the comments or by the voice; the voice of AI is still fairly noticeable) and went "fuuuuuuuck, now I don't want to like it". And this annoys me, as I know it will happen more often and also that I will miss out noticing it more. AI creations can get flooded while real creators getting drowned out (looking with much disgust at you Pixiv and DeviantArt).
But I also want to add that I am not against AI assisted music creations. But then the creator must disclose where and how much the AI was involved.
But I also want to add that I am not against AI assisted music creations.
I thought this was a great TED talk describing how AI can be used in the composition and "recording" of works where a human is still in the driver's seat. In this person's case, it's still a human mostly performing and singing, but just fed through an algorithm that makes it sound like another (famous) singer.
I refuse to consider anything AI generated to be legitimate art.
There's nothing intentional about it, you simply give a prompt to a machine and it matches the pattern. That isn't art just like how doing madlibs isn't the same as writing literature.
A person using AI tools can be ok as long as it's a human doing the overall composition.
Like using AI to make samples to use in a song is fine, using AI to generate the entire song isn't.
It's functionally no different than an artist making a commissioned work, though. The artist is given a prompt by the client and they use what they've learned and trained on to produce the thing.
It is entirely different. It's like the commissioner taking credit for the artist and calling themselves the artist because their money bought the imagery into existence.
AI generations aren't art and people who take them and pass them off as art are frauds to themselves and others.
It's like you didn't read my comment at all
Look at the ratio and then question your own reading comprehension.
8 other people read our exchange and agreed with me.
Maybe instead of literally everyone but you having poor reading comprehension you've just got a bad point.
Mob mentality isn't necessarily correct. Blanket hating AI is the default on Lemmy so I'm not surprised by the ratio. You also harped on the people imputing prompts not being artists when I was clearly comparing them to clients.
The truth is that people said shit like you're saying about digital artists when that first became a thing.
Gen AI is still in its infancy, and it's not going to go anywhere.
Did you read my comments?
Where did I claim that AI is going anywhere?
You really need to work on your reading comprehension little bro because you're bringing shit I never mentioned up like it's some kind of refute to what I actually said.
Sorry but I'm not going to glaze you like your beloved LLM.
This has completely killed my desire to listen to random music albums ive never heard of on YouTube. Sadly.