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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People. You don't need this shit. I promise.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only thing my bed has that my previous beds didn't was a removable charging outlet with USBs and stuff. That's it. That requires only electricity and is literally something that could have existed last century with no problem.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Never buying smart anything. Wish we could buy a smart president though.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People in the 80's: "In the year 2025 we're going to have hoverboards and flying cars!"

2025: "I can't use my bed because the servers are down"

Stop making the future stupid. Never buy anything that needs to be connected to a server to work for no good reason.

[–] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Smart products themselves are not the issue. The issue is making everything cloud based. The solution is companies designing their products so they can be controlled over the network.

It's a fucking bed! It doesn't need a persistent connection to some server. The problem is that they also want to mine and sell your data.

[–] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

That's the key. They want to mine and sell the data

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know this bed is great and all, but what it's really missing is a mandatory connection to the Internet!

...jfc

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

“Carla! Carla! What the fuck is this? I know you sleep on a 25. A 25 or a 30 if you fuck up swiping. I know for a fucking fact that you would NEVER choose to sleep on a 60, and yet I found a goddamn record of a 60 when I was out last week. Who was it? Who was here?”

I really can’t see any other reason. A dial isn’t sexy but it’s far easier in every way

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's amazing that they actually designed the beds to fail in the worst possible way. I mean this is cartoon crazy.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ha, this reminds me of the death of the guy that gave the world lead poisoning.

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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He also invented CFCs, the chemical that nearly destroyed the earth's protective ozone layer. Quite a guy.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

A one man environmental disaster. J. R. McNeill opined that Midgley "had more adverse impact on the atmosphere than any other single organism in Earth's history"

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

So instead of it defaulting to last known good settings, it couldn’t poll AWS to retrieve the user settings and either just went into debug alert mode or the hardcoded defaults are full upright and max temp. More premium products kneecapped by poor management in a race to enshittify everything

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this is worse than getting locked out of your smart oven for not paying subscription

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a stupid fucking product.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sorry, I meant to say "stupid fucking people buying stupid fucking products."

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Right, and we should protect them by passing laws penalizing companies from such shitty software. Cuz the average person can't access the source code.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Beds are often used for fucking. Beds are fucking products.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Build your shit to be fail safe. The idea that this was less bad if you self hosted is ridiculous. You will have much more outages that way.

You may be right to criticize cloud everything, but as I said, just not the problem here. Only the trigger.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Online first, and they're only now working on offline mode? Okay...

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like if I was gonna put a computer attached to a motor & heater inside a bed, the very first step would be making sure that if the software goes wrong, it always defaults to staying bed shaped and not catching fire.

I know I know hindsight is 20/20, I'm sure I'm just missing something. Venture capitalists would just give their money to any random idiot with a pitch, right?

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of the Naked Gun folding bed scene, haha

https://youtu.be/v664Yaqjw0g

[–] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why? what if they want more money and decide to make it go subscription based? do you and the shareholders want to risk people just....unplugging them and continuing to use them? the mere idea made me drop my monocle .

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

why do people buy these things!?!?!

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because their favourite YouTuber tells them how much better they're feeling after getting one.

It's why sponsorships are an outright negative for me when looking at products. They abuse the authority influencers seem to get. "Oh I like him and his videos, he wouldn't lie to me." Yeah right.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Absolutely, some youtubers are nothing but paid shills.

On the other hand, there are some who have a lot of integrity. If TechMoan for example tells us that something actually works, I'll be very inclined to believe him.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Because they sold their house they paid 12 acorns for for $2M and grandpa already has a Corvette.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Because bored Western middle class in a consumerist society.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wow, imagine having to pay a subscription to have a 2-year warranty.

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reminds me that nurse interview in Spain during the blackout:

"But your hospital doesn't have a backup generator?? -Oh we have solar panels, we could be running off the grid! But the power management system requires an Internet connection, and it's down!"

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

The nurse knew that the power management system required an Internet connection? That's one geeky nurse.

Still, I have hope with things like solar panels. I think these are likely to be teething pains there. Being off-grid on a solar panel is probably a pretty common situation, so they're probably going to eventually work out the kinks. As long as there isn't a monopoly on power management systems, or regulatory capture by the companies that make them, probably the ability to work disconnected from both the power and Internet grids will eventually happen. But, with Internet-of-Things stuff, there's often a commercial incentive to mine people's data and lock them into a subscription service model. So, that's really going to require regulation to fix.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sorry. I’m really sorry. But why does a bed need to be smart? This is the dumbest timeline ever. It really is

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From what I've seen, it's actually a really good product. Just that the company is trash and forces subscriptions and the mattresses to be always online.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How can that possibly be a good product?

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The tech and the physical product is good. The software and the system around it is bad.

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[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A reminder to not buy "smart" home appliances unless you can self-host it's internet connectivity or its "smart" features are optional.

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

lol, e-waste beds.

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