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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 66 points 3 months ago (4 children)

NBC News asked about a possible scenario in which Vice President JD Vance would run for office and then pass the role to Trump. Trump responded that “that’s one” method.

That isn't a method. At in the sense that Trump obtains the title President. But we've seen during this administration that the President can delegate broad authority to others with zero questions.

So we could have a President who is still the President in name but has passed 99.9% of their duties to Trump who is an "independent contractor".

This is quite literally the foundation they're building with Musk.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is what Medvedev and Putin did in the 2010's, isn't it?

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 34 points 3 months ago

Yeah. Then Putin took back the role of President using the argument that Medvedev being President allowed Putin to run again despite term limits.

Medvedev became Prime Minister, then everyone in Parliament resigned all at the exact same time, leaving the President as the only one running the place.

Putin rewrote the Constitution and that was the end of that.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lets all remember putler was a healthy man in his 50's at the time. Not a 82 year old bag of McDonalds. The putin long con isn't really there due to cheeseburgers and coronary events. Inshallah.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Musk plans to be the inheritor of Trump's "divine mandate." Trump will bust down all the norms and then Musk will have an easy time paving the trail Trump blazed.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's basically what Putin has done, alternating between Prime Minister and President, allowing him to stay in power indefinitely. He's probably coaching HitlerPig to do the same thing.

Vance would have to run (and win), with HitlerPig as VP, and then defer most responsibilities to HitlerPig.

There's a major problem with this. The biggest reason HitlerPig wants to be president is because he can't be prosecuted while he is president. SCOTUS gave him immunity superpowers, but that immunity does not extend to the VP. Once he does not occupy the presidency, he can be immediately arrested and prosecuted.

That depends on a lot of variables such as DoJ cooperation, pardons, etc., but he would still be vulnerable to state charges, prosecutions, and imprisonments. He may think that President Vance will protect him, but what if they all decide that HitlerPig has fulfilled his duties, and he can be thrown to the Blue State wolves, giving them some measure of revenge, taking some of the pressure off the Nazi government.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump can't run for VP, that isn't a legal loophole. It'd just be a blatant violation of the constitution, for whatever that's worth.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Once he does not occupy the presidency, he can be immediately arrested and prosecuted.

Yeah, like we did in 2021.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It should be very clearly stated that that is DIRECTLY contradictory to the Constitution still. You cannot be VP if you are ineligible to run for the office.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago

Elon Musk is neither President or Vice President, yet yields a massive amount of power for someone who is just "an independent contractor".

This is what I'm getting at. That a JD Vance President and Mike Johnson VP (let's just say for sake of illustration) could indicate they're bringing Trump on as a "consultant" and then leave their jobs largely up to him.

Technically speaking Vance would still hold the title President but Trump would be executing most of the functions.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

The problem is that Trump doesn't need authority, he doesn't actually do anything. He needs the protections of the title. He allows things to happen and signs documents put in front of him.

Now if no one is enforcing anything then being an "independent contractor" might enough, but as laws currently exist and the precedent currently being set, he needs the actual title of President.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 50 points 3 months ago (6 children)

He could just refuse to leave. What's Congress going to do. What's the Supreme Court going to do?

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Confirm the winner, then they waltz in, take reins of power and arrest him and his cabinet if they refuse; civil war if necessary

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 3 months ago

That's what should happen, but with the current group of dunces in charge? Absolutely not.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Call it an official act and with a bit of luck it falls on a maga judge and voilà!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 3 months ago

Presto! Chango! President for life!

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

That what Maduro did in Venezuela, he just refused to leave when he lost the election, and the rest of the government went along with it.

I thought HitlerPig might attempt that in January 2021, but he really blew ALL of his political capital with his Insurrection. If he had tried to remain in the White House after that, they would have dragged him out in cuffs.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The only thing that keeps a president in power is the threat of the military, and funding. Take both away, and suddenly you're nothing.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Which is why he's been putting his own loyalists in charge.

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd wager he'll be dead by then as he seems to survive on McDonald's, and is clearly not all there.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Evil people feed off of more than food, water, and air.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Dude has terrible health, I'd be surprised if he makes it through this term.

[–] unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Scumbags like that tend to last longer than we’d think possible. It’s unnatural.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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He was 94.

I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, but with the way right wing loves to talk about vampires & adrenochrome, could be more projection. /joking, of course

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because he got the best socialized medical care the public could afford.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Much more honest/fair take.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

life expectancy is a lot of genetics and lifestyle. The Bush boys were healthy active dudes. they did not grow up hungry thats for sure.

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[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He wants marshal law. Hence the picking fights with everyone.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Martial law pretty much overrides all other laws

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Stage a false-flag operation. Declare martial law and suspend constitution. His loyal appointed chief of staff and republican controlled congress falls in line. Trump-appointed supreme court acquiesces. President till he dies on the throne.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Americans will vote for him again or step aside while complaining about democrats

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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There are "methods" for preventing it but they shouldn't be mentioned in polite company.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We're getting to the point where "polite conversation" will be banned

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Pushing the ”polite company” thing is how the rich have been ripping us off for years.

I’m supposed to be polite just because these assholes were polite while ripping us all off? Get fucked.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

This smells like the shit Russia did with Putin being Prime Minister.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He could go for a third term probably if he resigns before 2027.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 3 months ago

No. Can't be elected more than twice.

Okay. New thing: if you haven't read the US constitution front to back, please do so as soon as you can.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Oh my goodness!

Sure didn’t see that coming!

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Anyone who didn't/doesn't see this coming is absolutely blind, stupid, crazy, or all of the above

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