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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And anti vaxxers will make some bullshit claim, making idiots believe it, and it'll only halfway eliminate HIV.

[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago

Not just them, but the religious fuckers who want everyone to suffer "consequences" for the sin of sex. Same ones that freak out about HPV vaccine.

I know there is a lot of overlap. But it isn't total.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least this way you can save most of the smart ones.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 3 points 13 hours ago

Religious people often have smart kids. They need protection.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You know what, if you have HIV and throw your lot in with them then you've only got yourself to blame. If they had their way they'd throw you down a well for having it.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Problem is "that lot" is running the HHS (including the CDC) so people that want medicine in the US may not have access, even if they can afford it (which is becoming more unlikely than before).

Americans will find some way to blame the democrats for it tho, so the few people that actually vote will just vote in "that lot" again.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 71 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

40 dollars in low income countries. 28,000 dollars in the united states. The drug is made in the united states.

WTF.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 33 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Makes you wonder if Trump has a point.

But thanks to RFK and Trump, there will be no more drugs like this in the future. Gilead did the trials, but 95% of the effort behind this was NIH funded. We can't even guess how many game changing drugs have been cut in 2025.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

As always Trump completely misunderstands the situation. Yes there’s a point in how exepnsive drugs are in the us, especially relative to other countries. But whether it’s manufactured in the us has almost nothing to do with it.

The problem is recovering all the development costs from American patients, and more recently just charging what they think the market will bear. We have to fix the complex maze of healthcare and all the levels of profiteering, we have to fix how development costs can be recovered and most of all we need to fix charging what the market will bear. Has everyone already forgotten the outcry over insulin a few years ago. A ceo who should be in jail decided to start charging ten or twenty times the cost, because he could, because us patients are a captive market. Then got away with saying “some of you can use these coupons….”. There’s definitely a point where exploitive business practices have crossed the line and should be considered criminal acts

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is recovering all the development costs

Yeeeaaahhh, but no.

There is also a huge amount of plain greed in there, drug companies aren't exactly known for being very generous to put it mildly. Cost of healthcare in the US is beyond insanely expensive and that isn't just because Americans are rich, the vast majority aren't and for many, getting sick is not only a death sentence, it's also a death sentence to the family as they'll be stuck with the medical bills that will bankrupt them.

The US healthcare system is beyond fucked up with corruption and just plain extortion. Wanna live? Say, that's a nice first born you have there!

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've encountered this: This treatment is $10,000 if you pay out of pocket, but we'll charge your insurance company $680 for it.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago

The issue here is that the bigger insurance companies literally set the prices for services and drugs.

You wanna keep doing business with United, you charge them what they're willing to pay, otherwise they'll just reject claims or put you out of network altogether.

It's FUBAR.

[–] sga@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago

speaking as a indian - the reason that this is possible because we kinda ignore medical patents and formulations. (using kinda because i do not know the exact wording in law and the cooldown period).

It should also tell you about the cost of ingredients and manufacturing vs the costs you pay for "rnd for big companies" (who often build upon work done by universities which often are run by public fundiing)

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

generic versions of a groundbreaking injectable drug to prevent HIV

The two organisations have entered into separate agreements with Indian pharmaceutical companies to produce cheaper generic versions of lenacapavir – a twice-yearly injection shown to reduce the risk of HIV transmission by more than 99.9 percent – for [more than 100] low- and middle-income countries.

Marketed under the brand name Yeztugo by California-based Gilead Sciences, lenacapavir currently costs around $28,000 a year in the United States.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck...

Why can't we have nice things?

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BossDj@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago

A.K.A. Billionaire Socialism

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 13 hours ago

Generic versions of a groundbreaking injectable HIV-prevention drug should be available for $40 a year in more than 100 countries from 2027, Unitaid and the Gates Foundation said Wednesday.

Marketed under the brand name Yeztugo by California-based Gilead Sciences, lenacapavir currently costs around $28,000 a year in the United States.

FUCK GILEAD

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no! Quick! Cut their Funding!

-The USA!

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No no, keep their funding but make a Pharmaceutical company around it and only release pills with enough potency to treat instead of cure

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

"Hey Jimmy, you weren't at work yesterday"

"oh, my AIDS was acting up but I took some Rubitussin, I'm fine now."

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We can end HIV":

...as long as we can convince everyone to take it. So, yeah. Good luck with that.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

You don't need to convince everyone, just enough people.

Were already seeing really good progress with pills and condoms, so an option which doesn't need to be taken on a strict daily schedule will be a huge boon.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good thing therefore the brainworm in charge of health here in the states will surely get it banned. Or at least made to cost several thousand percent more than it costs to make.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Thank goodness the west coast states have created their own health consortium and a bunch of east coast states have followed suit. I live in one of those east coast states, and just got a covid booster no questions asked. It is also covered 100% by my insurance.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The Gates Foundation also announced Wednesday that it had entered into a similar partnership with Indian pharmaceutical company Hetero.

That's for bigots to not being ashamed of taking pills against sexually transmited diseases? See, Hetero is in it's very name, so it's fine!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That’s ok, I’m sure it won’t be allowed to sell in the us. Profits will be intact

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes, the US won't get the Hetero, they'll only get the sparkly $28000 version, called the Homo.

[–] Link@feddit.nl 8 points 12 hours ago

We can :) But, we probably won't :(

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But what about the Tylenol?

Probably doesn't prevent HIV.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I hate to say it, but I worked in HIV prevention in the late 2000s, and we really thought prep was going to be the end of HIV, along with rigorous testing and linkage to care.

Since then, HIV rates have exploded in many areas, silently, because we've gone fully regressive on sex ed.

I have friends that became HIV positive before they even knew about prep.

WTF happened.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Boomers aged and shifted to the right.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

$40.

What, are you crazy?

I don't have that kind of money!

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Then you should have sex with as many rich people as possible then die as quickly and quietly as possible, there's a good chap.

Best regards, Your corporate overlords

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

quickly, sure. quietly, well, when this cannon goes it'll be loaded

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[–] tehredmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"Preventative drug"? Is this what we're calling vaccines now?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

There are No vaccines for HIV. This is a drug that if taken continually will prevent the virus from taking hold.