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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 154 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He added, “We must stop clutching our principles and shouting “stop.” They own the legal system. That will achieve nothing. We need action. Disproportionate. Violent. Action."

Dude.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 121 points 1 day ago

Wait, WHO owns the legal system now? The side that controls the supreme Court? Hmm.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Do you think he knows that he's the 'they' now?

Maybe news just travels more slowly in MAGAland and his calls for violence against the political establishment will cease once he finds out that his team has the ball now...

Inb4 "there were good people on both sides" and such...

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes I think he knows. It's the logical fallacy of the 'deep state' thing. Even with Republicans in charge of every branch of government, there is still a mysterious 'deep state' to blame everything on.

Also once again it falls into 'every accusation is a confession.' It de-legitimizes the argument when Democrats say the exact opposite thing (Republicans owning the legal system).

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past." — Jean-Paul Sartre

Yes, this fuckwad knows damn well he's the "they" now. He is reversing victim and offender deliberately to flaunt his power and mock us.

Do you think he knows that he's the 'they' now?

Absolutely not, they never do. Trad Catholics still think the US is persecuting them even though the majority of the supreme Court is Catholic. Trump still thinks of himself as an underdog despite having a death grip on the executive, Congress and the judicial branches. Paul Ryan's favorite band was rage against the machine.

All of these people are delusional.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Legitimate news doesn't travel at all in MAGAland. The gatekeepers are Fox/OAN/Newsmax, and they don't let wrongthink breach their airwaves.

[–] RaoulDuke@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

They can start at his residence.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Who's doing the political violence and needs to tone down the rhetoric again?

Calling for violence normally lends you in the pokey. But I'm willing to bet this fascist talking head won't spend a minute in jail.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago

Perhaps someone could help him become the very change he wishes to see.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

My buddy gets charged with terroristic threats for saying he's gonna kicks someone's ass outside a bar.

This guy asks his readers to become violent, knowing there are people willing to do so, and crickets.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The new "free speech" - the right can scream fire in a crowded theater, and that's just "free speech". We cannot have cAnCel cUlTuRe and sPeEcH cOdEs when it comes to the right wing! Any restraint on conservatives, well, that's just pOliTiCaL cOrReCtNeSs.

But if someone anywhere to the left of Goebbels were to quote the likes of Charlie and what this National Hero actually has said, well, then they are subject to getting doxed and fired and getting death threats, etc.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Whats funny is while protesting I find about 10% of the folks react and of that 1% react engatively. Im guessing of the non reactors the ratio is about the same. So like they really should not want violence in the streets.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He wants YOUR blood on the streets. He himself will stay behind the scenes stirring everyone up.

People like him are the real enemies of the state. If he was in the UK he'd have been arrested by now for incitement.

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People like him are the real enemies of the state. If he was in the UK he’d have been arrested by now for incitement.

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll get the Medal of Freedom or whatever.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago

The Trump Super Patriot screaming eagle animated gif badge on Truth Social?

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sorry conservatives. You've owned yourself here. If you wanted to form proper lynch mobs that could make the streets run red with blood, you shouldn't have freaked out about 15 minute cities. You just can't have a proper race riot in a low-density, car-dependent suburban sprawl.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

lol. Now that's a unique take.

[–] masta_chief@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago

Ikr. Brilliant observation. Now of course they don't necessarily need direct race riots to exploit every last drop of the immigrant/POC/minority working class's wealth, land/property, and economic output, but maybe at least some of the more violent pogroms will be avoided due to white people being seperated by roads as well as probably out of shape.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago

Is this not textbook incitement of violence? Any decent government would prosecute him, but we’re fresh out of those.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

What the fuck is wrong with America?

You got nutjobs like this saying stupid things ...

... a good portion of the country that either accepts it or supports it ...

... and the rest of the country that just idly sit by and either say little or do nothing about it all.

A year ago, I had some respect for Americans ... since then, I've lost almost all my respect for them. At first they were ruining themselves, now their stupidity is threatening us all everywhere.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We've had some of the largest nation-wide protests in our history, the news just won't cover it

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The protests should be shutting down the country .... not violently ... peaceful protest refusing to use your work to continue running the country.

If enough people stood up and just said 'enough is enough, we're not working any more until this government changes or becomes more responsible' ... then things might actually change.

You're on the path now ... you can say that you can't protest because you'll lose your job or livelihood and that you have to make ends meet but the way things are going ... if you do nothing, you're still going to lose everything eventually.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People can’t financially afford that. They are paycheque to paycheque.

[–] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 day ago

Can't afford not to. Losing health care, value of money, retirements, farms, etc, etc. If everyone keeps their heads in the sand they'll be broke anyway.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

You can't shut down a country that is essentially 50 different countries in one. The US is just too big and segmented.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You got nutjobs like this saying stupid things ...

Idiocy and the far right has been normalised in America. I'm not a conservative (don't think I would ever be) but I have been downvoted before when I said there are smart conservatives but the dumb ones are being propped up instead. That's why people know Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens, but never heard of Thomas Sowell, Roger Scruton and David Frum. There is a well-funded far right propaganda machine going on for decades to normalise both idiocy and what would have been considered extreme before. That includes propping up idiot far right personalities that I mentioned. The oligarchs know these mouthpiece personalities are dumb and want that stupidity to trickle down to people.

... and the rest of the country that just idly sit by and either say little or do nothing about it all.

A lot of Americans are conditioned to pick the lesser evil. Sorry to American liberals, but that notion and "vote blue no matter who" slogan are thought terminating clichés. Placing high value on always "pick the lesser evil" is, a matter of fact, a conservative talking point prevalent in other countries (so yes, American liberals, you are conservative for repeating those silly slogans). It paints the idea to stick with the status quo and it is better to deal with "the devil you know, than the devil you don't." The Democratic party is like "look, we are giving you breadcrumb policies or you will get the fascists."

It isn't like there is no precedence for Americans to mobilise and think outside the box. They used to be good at it and holding their politicians accountable. Third parties used to get into both senate and congress. The first Gilded age and the reign of monopoly barons ended because of people's collective will. What happened is that there is brainwashing since the advent of mass media to think within certain acceptable thoughts and under capitalist framing. A Singaporean diplomat opined that the worldview of American people and their media are just as insular and self-referential as those who are in totalitarian regimes. Just to drive home the point further, here is a quote that i always love to share:

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[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“So some activist takes the sign next to your table at a public debate...?” he wrote. “She gets instantly clotheslined. I don’t care if police are present. Do it anyway. In fact, be wildly disproportionate.”

He added, “We must stop clutching our principles and shouting “stop.” They own the legal system. That will achieve nothing. We need action. Disproportionate. Violent. Action."

He wants MAGA to start the violence at non-violent protests. This is fascists how meet the challenge of dissent. They cannot win with reason. They appeal to people with lies and propaganda, and if that doesnt work, they become violent toward anyone that opposes them.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a group, they are like dealing with someone with bipolar disorder or similar personality traits.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Or a screaming toddler.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

The violent left radicals.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He can volunteer first if he wants it that bad. Usually calms that kind of talk right down.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 21 hours ago

I feel like if you make a call to violence like that then anyone should be able to legally challenge you to a duel to the death within the next week.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 28 points 21 hours ago

Let me guess, the MAGA guy is mad at the legal system because he is getting charged with something pedo related.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These guys, FFS. Even if they are to the point where they are heading up literal death panels, they will still frame themselves as the victims.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

That's how you know appeasement doesn't work. Delaying fighting back accomplishes fuck-all but putting you in a worse and worse strategic position.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would TERRORISM if he was Trans or a Democrat! BUT he's REPUBLICAN so it's LoL Funny Fun Fun Time we're NOT Snowflakes or I'll KILL YOU!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's interesting how their side put up an actual web site to dox everyone who said something that hurt their feelings in the wake of Charlie getting shot.

Meanwhile, these assholes can call for violence openly, and think it's hilarious to laugh about Pelosi being a target for murder and her husband getting seriously injured. No one put up a site to dox every single asshole who joked about that, or all the other many instances of right-wing violence done for political purposes, even though there are sooooo many other instances of that.

The right are the most thin-skinned little babies I've ever seen. Everyone must honor their fallen Nazi or else. Even if most people never even heard of the guy, nor do they give a fuck about it now....everyone must be caught up in their drama about it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

No one put up a site to dox every single asshole who joked about that, or all the other many instances of right-wing violence done for political purposes,

Indeed, WTF are we waiting for?!

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Police? FBI? DOJ? No? Nothing?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're too busy investigating trans people, antifascists, people who think genocide is bad, and violent far-left extremists like Chuck Schumer. No time for the fascists who call for political violence whenever they're not busy shooting people.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago

The ones that call for violence like this should be the ones met with violence the fastest

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

Bold move given all the right on right violence going on.. please proceed

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

I won't start the fight, but I intend to be the one who finishes it.

Bullies only respect the power that is asserted against them. If the MAGATs insist on blood being spilled, it should be their broken noses that provide.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I demand arrests. I demand jail cells. For Trump and everyone involved in his administration

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

These people really, really want violence. Sounds totally normal and sane.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Charlie Kirk agreed.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Um, that’s not a harsh enough response. Once they attack, the threat must be eliminated, or they survive to try again and again.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Alright then. Let's do this.

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