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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

puts on logic glasses

Oh look, another brilliant mind discovered that autism was identified before Tylenol existed, so obviously Tylenol can't cause autism. That's like saying cancer existed before radiation therapy, therefore radiation can't cause cancer. Peak necessity/sufficiency confusion right here - apparently conditions can only have one cause and medical recognition equals temporal origin.

But hey, let's ignore that Swedish study of 2.5 million kids that found zero causal link when they actually controlled for confounding variables using sibling comparisons. Or those other high-quality studies that show the association completely disappears once you account for genetics and family environment. Who needs actual science when you have timeline gotchas?

Meanwhile pregnant women might avoid the safest pain reliever available because some politician decided to manufacture outrage for political points. But at least someone gets to feel intellectually superior about their logical fallacy meme.

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[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong. But my guess is that “autism predates Tylenol” is probably gonna convince more people than “large controlled study done by the Swiss”. People are generally really ignorant

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Tylenol is a brand. Acetominophen was created in 1878 (or 1852, depending on who you ask).

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Over half of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or lower and our President speaks at a 4th-grade level. How many you suppose know Tylenol and acetaminophen are the same thing?

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Uh, this is a logical fallacy though :(

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh he also recently ate thermal paper/reciept because it was healthy on an article today. hes also associated epstein too.

tfw my wife has a paracetamol allergy and I will never have autistic kids

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's a 100% correlation between a child coming into direct physical contact with their family doctor and that same child later being diagnosed with autism. Show me an example where this was not the case. Family doctors are sporing autismomes like a tickled mushroom and no one is talking about it.

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[–] cm0002@piefed.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's the dumbest shit I've heard in a long time LMAO

I have no doubt that Tylenol isn't as safe as it's made out to be, but RFKs brain worms swung way too far in the other direction lol

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tylenol would be a prescription drug if it hit the market today. Had a friend blow her liver and lie in a coma for two months until she got a transplant. She was a hardcore alcoholic, and this is an alcoholic saying that. Doctor addressed the family and told them alcohol wasn't the factor, the liver failure was 100% down to Tylenol.

OTOH, I've seen a lot of ignorant comments from people thinking it does cumulative damage. Nope, just don't do too much at once.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

She was a hardcore alcoholic, and this is an alcoholic saying that. Doctor addressed the family and told them alcohol wasn't the factor, the liver failure was 100% down to Tylenol.

That doesn't sound realistic, that a hardcore alcoholic's liver failure was 0% from alcohol abuse. I suspect that the information changed at some point in the process of relating it to you.

It was probably just that the Tylenol overdose was the immediate cause, and somebody took that to mean that alcoholism was not a factor.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably that paracetamol becomes far more toxic when alcohol has depleted the liver's glutathione stores

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[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Paracetamol was first made in the 1800's though.

Or are they just blaming a certain brand?

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

Direct from Wikipedia

Paracetamol was first made in 1878 by Harmon Northrop Morse or possibly in 1852 by Charles Frédéric Gerhardt.

The left has misinformation too. Science is on our side; there’s no reason to propagate this shit.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The argument would be that autism is on the rise, not that it's a new thing. I'm assuming this crowd understands the "rise" is from finer-tuned diagnoses. Hell, there may be another factor, but money says it ain't Tylenol.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That settles it, then. Obviously, autism was caused by time travel.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I fucked up some orgo im sorry

[–] xylol@leminal.space 0 points 1 month ago

Every where I look there are orgies, now in time and space parties

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Til autism was once understood as being the same as schizophrenia.

Quite interesting how the concept of neurodivergence is almost doing the opposite with respect to individuals who overlap on multiple neurological labels. Except it celebrates the individual uniqueness of their mind, needs, strenghts and challenges rather then generalising to find the one pill to sell to all.

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[–] Maybelline@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

... or worms.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Cool, maybe next they can find a cure for MAGA

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I … are y'all this stupid?

I mean I know dumb man is dumb and I don’t care to watch him speak but I don’t think he’s saying tylenol™ was the sole creator of fucking autism.

Just saying that like 60,000 other things, inlcuding like every other pain killer, that it can cause issues for the developing baby and thus should be avoided if possible.

Hell it probably wasn’t explicitly on the list mostly as it’s the least unsafe painkiller.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The argument has always been that autism is on the rise and they're casting about for a factor. I think it's mostly, if not all, a matter of better diagnostic tools and procedures. Maybe there is another factor, but not seeing them present any real evidence here.

Also, Tylenol is hardly safe. Had a friend blow out her liver, was in a coma for 2-months until she got a replacement.

Responsible for 56,000 emergency department visits and 2600 hospitalizations, acetaminophen poisoning causes 500 deaths annually in the United States. Notably, around 50% of these poisonings are unintentional, often resulting from patients misinterpreting dosing instructions or unknowingly consuming multiple acetaminophen-containing products.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441917/

And who could forget the Tylenol Murders? :) It was a BIG deal, whole country scared shitless. I was only 11 but well aware of the whole thing.

Funny the event never comes up, but that's why we have restrictive packaging. When I was a child, you could pull a product off the shelf, pop the top and remove the cotton wad, that easy. It was really weird watching the packaging change hit overnight.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah this all reads as “well fuck we said we were gonna have something so we’ll just go with this thing we already knew should probably be avoided but left as the only real option for pain so we’ll say it’s that and not actually change anything.”

Now I am much more worried about is their “cure” that was “tested” and posted about in Feb of this year… on… one… single… 3 year old… who they fully doxxed showing that, incase it wasn’t obvious by n=1, that the study is fucking bullshit and not following NIH standards at all.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Hadn't thought about the appearance of doing something. This admin will just let RFK run wild because it won't affect any of them.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

And before that, it was all kinds of slurs I shouldn’t say. It’s been here forever, we’ve only developed empathy for it recently.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not full of crap, full of worms, brain worms.

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[–] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Careful! Cancer was around before cigarettes or dioxin. Not that I don't think RFK is full of shit, but sometimes it's best to ignore bad arguments when there are so many good ones to be made.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You think these guys care about logic?

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[–] Hond@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

Nothing but to agree. But we are way past the point of facts. This fallacy implies just projection of your own competency onto morons who just dont care. Your enemy doesnt care.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Snake oil doesn't sell itself

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