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At their convention five years ago, President Donald Trump and his Republican Party rallied their supporters fervently against an idea they characterized as a rot on society: cancel culture.

Too many people, they argued one by one in prime-time speeches, were being publicly ostracized — in some cases losing their jobs — for exercising their constitutional right to free speech.

But the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, who was among the speakers at that 2020 convention, seems to have rapidly shifted how Trump and other Republicans see the boundaries of free speech and the rules of engagement for a once-loathed cancel culture.

Previously a voice for the canceled, they are now the ones canceling.

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What? The government silencing you isn't "cancel culture", it's censorship and a violation of the first amendment.

Whoever wrote this article is either brain dead or trying to gin up justification for what the state is doing.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Conservatives have also always — for all of human history — been the most prolific perpetrators of cancel culture.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They've always been on this side of it...

The media needs to stop pretending Republicans being against free speech is new, lots of still remember what it was like after 9/11.

This is how they've been acting for generations

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Back then “Kill all Muslims” was free speech and “maybe we should stop interfering in the Middle East” was hate speech.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I got sent home from school on 9/11/02 because I legitimately forgot about 9/11 and wore a T-shirt that said "bad cop, no doughnut" completely by coincidence.

No one could explain to me how the two were connected, but I got a day off school at least.

It's always been about blind loyalty. Which is why it's so frustrating the billionaire media is still acting like they can't figure out why this is happening.

Theyve ignored every other time to the point they legitimately can't remember. That or they're just lying

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Connection is: "but the troops".

Don't think about it too hard.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, see these motherfuckers' behavior going back to the first red scares. What has it been, 100+ years now?

[googling] Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Red_Scare

Today's right wing anti-free-speech-warriors are the intellectual descendants of those doing this 105 years ago.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There are no "cancel culture wars". The right wing just pretended it was a thing so they could go after policies that were protecting people from bigotry, because it kept affecting them, because they are bigots. And the government punishing people for political speech is a quite different matter, and what the First Amendment was actually supposed to prevent. When MAGA claimed their First Amendment rights were being violated because they got fired by a private employer for violating anti-discrimination policies, or criticized online for expressing bigoted views, their rights were not being violated. When the government shamelessly and explicitly does everything it can to ruin private citizens' lives because they expressed an unduly nonfascist opinion, people's rights are absolutely being violated. Let's not allow the media to frame this as a "both sides" thing.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm like, "Who the hell on the right got canceled?" About the only person I can think of is Tucker Carlson and that was done by Fox without any real campaign for his dismissal. It was totally out of the blue.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That, and I still hear from Tucker all the time, even though he was supposedly "cancelled".

I ask the same question - where the fuck was all this supposed "cancelling" of the right wing? They think they should have special privileges no one else has to disseminate just whatever the hell they want, including hate speech and conspiracy theories and blatant disinformation campaigns all over private platforms in violation of the supposed Terms of Service everyone else has to abide by, AND have the algorithms boost that content.

But that is not the same thing as getting "cancelled".

[–] karashta@piefed.social 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago

It's all the media knows how to do.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago

It's a lying game.

Republican politicians and thought leaders pretend they are the victims of unfair persecution ("cancel culture") and censorship in order to 1) encourage a sense of righteous indignation in their base, and 2) create pretext for them to perpetrate actual unfair persecution and censorship when they're in power.

"If they can do it, why can't we?"

Half of the Republican base doesn't recognize this happening, and the other half doesn't care because it's working.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Republicans have zero values

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

that's just untrue. it's just that they have zero values that involve respecting other people or doing good for others - it's all about themself

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

They value greed and cruelty to others.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Humans have been ostracising those with aberrant or antisocial traits and behaviors for longer than civilization has existed. That's just how we work, its nothing new. A lot of the time it's simpleminded and damaging, but sometimes it's for the good of the whole.

I think it's perfectly okay to ostracise fascists and racists. I don't think it's okay for them to try to do the same for us. That's not hYpOcRiSy, that's how culture war works.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Um, what the FUCK? The "cancel culture" was not even a thing. It was just shit the cons made up. Who on the right was really "cancelled"?

As usual, it's projection. Jesus fucking Christ, even this headline cedes the framing to these dickheads and their incessant whining.