Political Memes

The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, though. The kid was born in crackerstan. Non-Republican's there are about as common as non-whites. He's the result of a long-term breeding experiment that investigates what would happen if you concentrated all the most gullible/ignorant people into a single space. Their Republican governor literally prayed to their god, that the person guilty of the crime was an outsider/other that they could all openly admonish and attack. acknowledging in a Freudian manner, just how bad and demented people in the area are because of the cult. His whole family are sympathizers for the fascists.And much like Mormonism is the dumbest of an already dumb religion. He somehow found a dumber sect than the dumbest sect of politics his family was already in.

About all the kid was confused and conflicted. Generally very conservative and Republican by any measure.

fr, we don't need to swing right back the other way

let the right make unproven claims, and then bury them for it after, if appropriate

and in any case, we can still say that Kirk was a shitty person, that we do not mourn his death, that the world is better off without his messages of hate; and none of that is at odds with holding the view that he shouldn't have been killed, even if he himself is on record stating that democrats should be killed.

I'm annoyed by all the partial context quotes of Kirk's, too. he said enough bad shit that has full context that we don't need to exaggerate the possibly-misleading stuff at all

Neo nazi shit heels from 4chan

From what I've been told: Nick Fuentes ~~fans~~cultists.

I thought it was a made up name for GOP-er aka a member of the republican party. Didnt realize it was more targeted than that. Also, i didnt know who nick fuentes is, so i guess ill count myself lucky

the name is widespread enough to have a wikipedia article

"Groypers" are what the followers of Nick Fuentes call themselves.

the shit written on the casings were references to memes they pass around in those circles, and there's other reasons, including his internet activity to say he was a Groyper.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Shits like a duck, it's prolly a duck.

Supposedly the Fuentes lot had co-opted “Bella Ciao”, a classic and beautiful anti fascist song, for their own memes or whatever.

I listen to a lot of Knowledge Fight, where Fuentes is a recurring idiot, and haven’t heard of this there, but I am not a studious listener.

I hope you get another comment from someone who knows way more than I have picked up, but from what I can tell he apparently wore a Pepe costume and Nick Fuentes apparently was suggesting Kirk was a fascist. I'm not sure what Nick's actual politics are other than despicable, but apparently he didn't like how Kirk was doing fascism so I guess you can think Kirk is a fascist and support Fuentes. People are taking that and the furry aspect of the alleged engravings because apparently Fuentes fans lean into being furries. So overall it seems like a Pepe costume, furry reference, and fascist critiques are being interpreted by some to suggest groyper. Admittedly, I am not thoroughly convinced, but "If you're reading this you're gay LMAO" is some generic 4chan trash that I can't imagine any actual anti fascists would want to be tied to. Stranger things have happened though.

Lefty ex Mormons absolutely exist. And I've met several here. But I think all of them, if they were being honest. Would absolutely tell you that they are the exception and not the rule.

4chan incells constantly say everyone who disagrees with them are too hateful because they push back against what the incells say.

The memes on the bullets weren't clearly antifa. As others have pointed out they're ironic cultural re-appropriations by fuentez's community. Precisely because it muddies things and implicates those they see as enemies. It's a common, fascist tactic to distort and dilute the meaning of things.

There's been nothing meaningful and verified found that implicates him as a leftist. No literature, no behavior.Or any meaningful indicators whatsoever. Just speculation from someone at Fox and “LOL memes“.

Don't get me wrong, there's been Some information possibly from the other side, such as the Photoshop of him in a Trump shirt that has been proven fake.

No one is trying to portray it as the left not being able to kill or commit acts of terror. Everyone is simply pushing back on clear, transparent, fascist propaganda to victimize innocent people. Justifying the violence, they're already committing. Had much of the media sphere and the President of the United States not already tried using this as a justification to continue attacking innocent people. I would agree with the caution on assumption of the kids political leanings. But, civilly pushing back against fascists is no vice.

I've been wondering about this too, thought I was just out of the loop but nothing I can find from a reputable source has really made me think he's a right winger.

Like, maybe we can't say for sure but to insist he's actually extremely far right seems like a wild leap.

He also was saying Kirk was too hateful

This information comes from a misquotation. One example of the story with this information has the full context:

Cox said that a family member of Robinson had told investigators that at a recent family dinner, Robinson had mentioned Kirk’s upcoming event at Utah Valley University, and “they talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” Cox said. “The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.”

Note that the family member is the one who said "Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate." But it has been repeatedly misattributed.

The left definitely do have a problem with infighting. We can't even agree on the right way to go about unfucking things. Between accelerationists, revolutionaries and people who still hope for peaceful solutions, between tankies and non-authoritarians, between hardliners and diplomats...

You'd think we could all agree to focus on our common enemy, but whenever anyone suggests a course of action, the discussion quickly becomes laden with epithets and accusations of being a capitalist pawn in some way or other.

Hell, I fully expect someone to misconstrue this very comment as an attempt to undermine leftist goals in some way.

None. There is zero definitive evidence of which side of the aisle he is on. The right wants him to be left and the left wants him to be right. Some on the right want justice, some want vengeance. Most on the left are celebrating either way, some didn’t agree with Kirk but didn’t believe he should die for his views.

Then you have the people in the center of the aisle that just want to be left alone and don’t care. Both the left and right hates these people.

Imagine someone engraving bullets with "Heil Hitler" and doing salutes on his socials.

Is it conclusive proof he's a nazi? I guess not, but it's a pretty big fucking hint.

the pure glee I felt when I saw what happened is a tad worrisome but ultimately it feels like it’s a +1 for humanity