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Originally Posted By u/Ice_Ice11 At 2025-09-14 10:07:57 AM | Source


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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

It would be more effective if they could read.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love the intent. Knowing some history dulls the effect a bit for me though. Yes, the first two lost the war, and the bottom will at some point as well (sooner the better). The issue is they ALL come from a systemic problem within our society, maybe in our species, so while they are separate events and the two fires were put out, the coals left kept burning underneath to erupt again, and they did.

We have to fight the battle first. Maybe next time we win we can turn attention to what's left and not leave it to grow again.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We are always so eager to declare victory than get complacent. We want to create a perfect utopia for our kids by guarding them from the ugly truth. So, as soon as the last generation of gatekeepers goes, the whole thing springs back to life from those little corners of embers smoldering as you say. All the WWII kids are gone and now look at our mess.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. I'm still baffled, knowing that probably most of these people had parents and grandparents who fought against fascism, giving everything in many cases. I can only rationalize some of it thinking that maybe if they had been able to talk about it to their children better... I know that was a thing with that period, children being seen and not heard and presumably not interacted with much. And the failure with the post-Civil War is its own huge topic with plenty of signs that the only thing that ended was the actual war.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

I had so many discussions with my grandmother that my mother never had with her. The Silent Generation were humble in a way boomers aren’t. But you had to pry at them to get the nitty gritty stuff out. They didn’t like sharing the unpleasant. In that way they really sheltered their kids. They gave boomers so much while hiding them from their traumas. Ok it leaked out in “tough love” but they spared them from a lot of ugly they went through. They never wanted their kids to live that.

The Silent Generation wasn’t perfect but they carried on fighting for unions, broke knuckles on politicians and were the last bastions against fascism. I really think they thought if they didn’t put light on the shadows they would disappear, that their kids would be safe. But in doing so we lost something.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Maga is just the avatar of a culture. and that avatar changes but doesn't die. As fucked up as it is, it's true. It's an element of the human spirit that will persist. Forever. Understand this when listening to business men and politicians.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Sure, but these guys didn't lose.