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[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 167 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

So that's how many members already? ~~-4-~~ 5?

-Spain
-Ireland
-Slovenia
-Netherlands
-Iceland

Hope there will be more.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Add Iceland to the list too

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Slovenia has been up to some good stuff recently, first they imposed an arms embargo on israel, now this. I'm proud of my little country

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Didn't we say that we are not considering participation because organizer doesn't listen to us and not because of Israel? Anyway, waiting years for this realization is lame. Better late than never but still... Take note that many Slovene universities and other institutions still ~~merely~~merrily collaborate with Israel, also we have bo problems hosting Israeli national sport teams and even use police to avoid protests and so on. And that arms embargo, Slovenia doesn't even know what transits through. We also don't want anything with lawsuits against genocide. Yes, it's a step or two in the right direction but far away from something big.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Small country, big hearth?!

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I feel ashamed that my country is not on this list.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Same, with even our ministry of the sports that said that "the Gaza operation is not as aggressive, not as bloody as the Russian invasion of Ukraine to justify banning Israel from the Olympics". WTF did you smoke?

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an Australian, same here.

That said its bemused me as to why we're even there.

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[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago

As a Dutch person, I'm very glad we've made this decision. After reading about Ireland doing the same I didn't think we would but I'm glad that we did and also that we've decided on this somewhat early instead of waiting to see what the "bigger" countries are doing like we usually do with these things.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 73 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why is israel, a country in the middle east, a part of Eurovision to begin with? Very telling.

[–] excral@feddit.org 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because they are part of the European Broadcast Union (EBU), just like other non-European countries including Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia and Georgia. That said, just like Russia, their membership should be suspended.

I'm completely fine with non-European countries participating. Australia (the one with the kangaroos) isn't even an EBU member, but has been participating in the Eurovision for the last ten years and I think it's great to see the world grow closer like that.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Tunisia and Lebanon tried to participate in 1977 and 2005 respectively (the latter even selected Aline Lahoud as their representative), but their participations were ultimately thrown out the window once they found out that Israel was there.

Morocco actually did participate in 1980, when Israel left after literally winning the second year in a row. Morocco never returned, even after recognizing Israel, and even in the later years when Israel was absent.

Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and the Vatican City all can participate since they have broadcasters that are a part of the EBU, but they choose not to, mostly due to Israel participating, which half of these countries don't recognize. Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision, one of their Cardinals? Oh yeah, Kazakhstan, an EBU associate, even participated in Junior Eurovision, but never in the adult contest. They are in the running for a special invitation though, whether it actually happens is something only time will tell.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also who would the Vatican even send to Eurovision

There was a nun who won The Voice

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(But since that, she renounced her vows to focus on her musical career)

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[–] nshibj@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's a nonsense joke. Australia is also there. Just kill Eurovision and call it something else for fucks sake

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[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Australia, Armenia, and Morocco are all outside of Europe, and have completed too. Basically all European countries are eligible, plus those whose public broadcasters are part of the European Broadcasting Union.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish my country was that smart.

[–] goldenbug@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago
[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It very important to note that Israel is NOT part of Europe. It's in the Middle East, which is in ASIA.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia. Heck, Australia.. If these are Europe, then so is Israel.

That said, I don't think we should exclude Israel from participating in Eurovision on a geographic basis. We should exclude them instead because they are an ethnofascist apartheid colony that's committing genocide on its population.

[–] python@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

They were also very clearly rigging the votes in the last Eurovision by having an online campaign aimed at making people vote for them (advertising like that is forbidden by Eurovision rules)

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right, why were they ever allowed to compete, just cause it's a white country?

[–] iglou@programming.dev 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Eurovision doesn't have "Must be a european country" as a rule

[–] 8uurg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Instead the rule is: must be a member of the European Broadcasting Union, which is notably different from Europe or EU: some African countries are members too.

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's because they're part of the EBU (not sure why though, the E here also stands for European). I think that's the actual qualification for entry.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Asiavision doesn't have the same ratings tho

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good. We need more of this. Israel needs to be isolated as the pariah state it is.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

They should really say that they will pull out of the show if israel and the zionists are allowed to sponsor the show through Moroccanoil and Estee Lauder.

THAT would hurt.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Countries are finally speaking up about this, I've been waiting for like, 2 years already.

Israel has undeniably brought the contest into disrepute twice in a row with them sending basically political entries with shady ad campaigns that made a select few voters disproportionately vote for Israel, causing them to spike up in the ranking (almost winning the 2025 contest; JJ is our savior), and yet the EBU just doesn't even care about this? And when Russia did the whole "let's take all of Ukraine" move, it took 10 countries to immediately speak up for them to get suspended. Ukraine won that year btw. Like... if the EBU are gonna keep saying the Eurovision Song Contest is "apolitical", then they have to accept the harsh reality that making your participants be countries immediately makes it otherwise. And this is not the exception, it's the norm. Both the Olympic Games and the FIFA World Cup have had similar disrepute incidents in the past, most notably with apartheid South Africa.

Either way, if more countries drop out due to Israel's continued participate, that could ultimately result in enough awareness for the EBU to finally kick them out for good. Otherwise, the only solution is the privatization of their broadcaster, which literally nobody wants.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Also the commentator in the Israeli live broadcast called every artist who had called the war a genocide an anti-Semite on live tv. Yeah if the EBU wants their contest to stay apolitical than they need to ban the Israeli broadcaster for the commentator’s toxic comments.

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[–] FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Nice. Go make a better one with Blackjack and Hookers (all genders).

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[–] ctry21@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They are the 6th biggest contributor, and Spain has considered doing similar and they're one of the big five. It might actually change something since money will matter the most, and enough countries are dropping out that they may not have enough contestants to run the semi-finals. There's rumours that Italy, Germany, and Britain may withdraw if Israel is kicked out though. Maybe we just won't have a contest next year, and after the bullshit of the past two years I'm completely fine with that.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If Germany and Britain drop out, anyone could come last.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh wow, AVROTROS (the broadcaster) finally found a spine? Where was this last year after the incident with Joost Klein?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think they found a spine so much as they've seen the turning of the tide in the media re: Israel Palestine conflict, with several major media outlets running pieces agreeing that it's a genocide in the last month or so (BBC, Sky, Reuters, etc).

Aside - I also would like to understand what the turning point was with these media groups where they suddenly pivoted from "Israel are purely defending themselves" to "this is a campaign of genocide". Its like they hit some arbitrary number. 67,026 = self defence, 67,027 = oh gosh oh wow that's genocide.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's just going to be israel and sweden left at this rate

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago

Also Germany because of our special responsibility towards genocidal rogue states or something like that

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Dear god, just take some sanctions like you did with Russia.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

God promised them a song contest 3000 years ago, you heathens.

[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Am not a European but are other Middle Eastern countries allowed to compete? Why would Israel even be considered a part of this to begin with, it doesn’t quite make sense.

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

Has nothing to do with Europe or the EU. One of their broadcasters is simply in the EBU, so they're allowed to participate.

If I remember correctly, it's a European Broadcasting Union thing, and they're in cause there used to be a British colony there.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 10 points 1 month ago

Israel (and most notably the Israeli company Moroccan Oil) is a big sponsor for the EBU, the organiser of the Eurovision Song Contest.

Only countries signed up with the EBU (European Broadcasting Union) can participate, and that’s not limited to European nations.

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

From what I've read, countries bordering the Mediterranean, including North-African countries, are allowed to compete, but they don't want to, mostly because they would have to broadcast the Israeli entry.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Probably different decisionmakers, but also not having a unified stance on Israel is kinda showing them as weak.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

Can't wait for the UK, Germany, and France Song Contest. I bet France still gives us nul points. /j

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good. Good. If enough countries retire we may have a chance to win.

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