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I’ve noticed a pattern in my friendships that I’m struggling with, and I’d love to hear other people’s perspectives.

Whenever I suggest something I genuinely want to do with friends, the plans always get changed around — often to fit schedules or budgets — until they no longer resemble what I originally suggested. By the time we meet up, I usually don’t enjoy the activity itself, though I still value being with my friends.

This cycle tends to repeat:

I suggest something → it gets reshaped into something I don’t want → we meet up but I’m bored/miserable → then we don’t talk for 6–12 months until someone breaks the silence.

Recently, I’ve made a change: I started doing the things I enjoy on my own, without waiting for friends. For the first time, I’ve actually been happy doing what I love — but it also means I’m doing them alone.

Part of why I’m trying this is because I’ve lost friends in the past from being visibly miserable all the time when I adapted to things I didn’t actually like. Honestly, it feels like for most of my life I never really chose my friends — I just adapted to the people around me. Now, I’d really like to choose friends who genuinely align with what I enjoy.

So here’s my question: Is it wrong to want to choose my friends? How do you balance doing what makes you happy with maintaining friendships, especially if your happiness and your current friend group don’t line up?

Any thoughts, advice, or personal experiences would be really helpful.

ai disclaimerI'm going through a lot and instead of just dumping my feelings here I thought it would make more sense to have Chatgpt handle it.

Here's the source chat but if you want to cite my words I'd prefer you just cite my post instead.

Regardless I stand behind Chatgpt's output as my own words and am accountable for it as though I wrote it.

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[–] SkaraBrae@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You could try "I'm going to do this thing on this day. If you would like to join me, I'll be there at this time. Let me know if you're coming by (RSVP date) so that I can book you a spot/plate/room: it will be $this much." And then make your plans and do them anyway.

This way it's clear that you are doing the thing. If people say "can we do this or this instead?" you reply with "Hey, great idea! Maybe next time. I've already planned the other thing for this time."

Sometimes it will be on your own. Sometimes others will want to join you. Sometimes you can join others on their quests, too, but remember to not try and change their plans to suit yourself.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You could try “I’m going to do this thing on this day. If you would like to join me, I’ll be there at this time. Let me know if you’re coming by (RSVP date) so that I can book you a spot/plate/room: it will be $this much.” And then make your plans and do them anyway.

I thought alot about doing this but I cannot wrap my head around how to actually do that? Like ok I'm gonna try to express some of my mental blocks I have right now:

  • I feel rude, I feel like I'm bragging to my friends that I'm doing stuff I know they just won't do
  • If I did this then I'd have to plan for the real possibility of doing an activity alone, that's gonna bias me towards doing things that might be less social than if I was picking things to do at random
  • If I do this than how do I know if I'm being too inflexible when my friends want to make changes? In the past year I tried litterally letting go of everything and just going with the flow for a year straight and I made friends who deep down I don't think I like, while doing things that were objectivily painful (that is a seperate thing I'm working on I need to excersise more lol). There has to be some sort of goal/point/reason to hanging out with friends and if that is nothing more or less than "I feel good when I'm with my friends" then what do I do when I don't feel good? Do I change what it takes for me to feel good or do I change my friends?

Wow tying that last bullet point really coalesed what I wanted to ask in this post, thank you <3

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

making a decision and having an opinion is not rude. And actually, often people are glad that you've removed the mental labor and discussion.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It isn't rude to tell people that you're doing an activity and that you're open to having company.

As for being inflexible, you're doing an activity and inviting people, not finding something to do with people. If they want to do something else, plan to do that a different day, because you've already made plans.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I always appreciated being in the receiving end of such plans. It takes a lot of the thought out and I just need to figure out how to make the schedule. Fwiw it also makes the yes/no decision easier.

An additional reason I don’t like making plans like that is I like to think I do things on impulse. In reality I have to admit I often don’t do anything so the gift of someone making plans is appreciated even if I grumble a bit.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago

Instead of making plans with friends, plan your activity and invite friends. If you're the defining factor, and plan your activity as it is, others may join or not.

The fewer people you involve, the more stable the plan will be as well.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Thank you for the AI Disclaimer and owning up to the words it spit out, at least you're being honest about it, and that's respectable. 👍

My personal opinion is don't expect anything.

You can try to plan everything out, but almost never will things go perfectly according to plans. And the more effort you put into planning, the less likely things actually go according to plan.

If you're just trying to enjoy time with friends, then plans might as well be just suggestions, but sometimes you just gotta roll with whatever happens, and get a good laugh when Jeremy pukes behind the car LOL!

Sometimes you just gotta live in the moment...

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

when Jeremy pukes behind the car LOL!

I wish I had more of this in my life. But yeah that was the first change I made, a few years ago I enumerated the set of every possible thing I can expect from friends and explained 1 reason why each specific reason is not correct as an emotional excersise.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While I'm here, I might as well share something interesting I found online..

Welcome To The Internet

https://youtube.com/watch?v=k1BneeJTDcU

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Good one, thanks for the link

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Nah, don't take me too seriously, you don't want Jeremy to puke at all, but I'd rather him puke behind the car than inside the car...

I just mean to appreciate the randomness of life in general. If you somehow or another came and knocked on my door, I'd probably show you some interesting stuff I found online, and challenge you to try my modded Rubik's Cube.

Of course that wouldn't have been any of your evening plans, I really don't know what your plans might have actually been, but I'd still be a decent host and try to be welcoming to your company.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it gets reshaped into something I don’t want

It is bizarre that this happens so regularly to you. Could you go into detail, like at least 3 examples of this? What's going on?

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

HUGE CONFOUNDING VARIABLE

I am diagnosed with OCD,


That being said I still assert that the changes made are sevear enough that anyone would agree that two plans are not similar:

I summarized a list of ideas for things to do in this comment but this list is a subset of a much larger more specific list (I don't want to share) so let's keep using it.

There was a time where I had no idea if I did or did not like any of these activities and wanted to find out if I did and it did not make sense to me to do these activities alone when I can ask friends to come with me because any friend can text me "why didn't you invite me I would have liked to come":

  • Luxury spas => hang out in a cold basement with candles and facemasks and phone playing
  • Guided tours => their average opinion of the concept was negative, I didn't have the energy to go do that by myself so I just didn't
  • Bar standing => we got older I thought we should try more mature things, they disagreed
  • Board games => this was the only plan that stuck, problem is I'm a goal oriented person by nature, even video games don't intrest me as much as writing code does. I used to be a senior redstone developer in minecraft
  • Movies => I don't really have much free time to discover movies I like enough that I my friends would like too, I mean I'll find movies that I like but there's no guarentee that it would be something they like. So when they want to watch a movie (usually at home) they'd default pick the most popular one and when I offer an alternative I get shot down. I watched the MCU series and I don't like it. I don't hate it but I wished I had watched other movies
  • Shopping => my friends are either broke or paying nyc rent. I guess the world sucks too much anyways and shopping as a friends thing is gone anyways
  • Museum standing => my whole body hurts if I stand for >40 mins... I timed it... after 15mins I start walking funny... after 30mins I struggle to hold my head up..... if I get dehydrated I loose the ability to banter or be funny. I slowly decay into an unpleasent person and there's nothing I can do about it

In summary:

me: "Hey let's do anything"

most of the friends I had: "Come to my apartment"

I know I'm not blowing this out of proportions. I'm alittle more sensitive then the average person and I can compensate for that but what do I do if my limits perclude me from doing things with friends.

inb4 "it sounds like your friends are lame" what are normal people such that they are not like the friends I've had??

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Apologies in advance if you are disabled, but if you can't stand for 40 minutes+ then I think the first thing to work on is your endurance. Even if it doesn't lead to more hang time with your friends, it will be rewarding for you and probably mitigate the chance of early death.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the first thing to work on is your endurance.

Incorrect: the very first thing to investigate is the shoes that @danhab99@programming.dev wears. Correct footwear is a game-changer in one's ability to stay on one's feet for hours. 40 min doesn't sound like just a standing issue, but rather that his insoles may not be contouring where his feet actually apply pressure. Some stores make custom insoles just for this purpose. There are also numerous shoe brands out there that look good but feel bad to wear. I would ask what brand of shoes he's wearing.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

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I bought these 3 weeks ago bc my chiropractor recommended, the Atrex insoles are also really nice. I've been walking better and maybe I can stand for >1 hr now ¯\(ツ)

Edit: meant to write "chiropractor" instead of therapist

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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

but if you can’t stand for 40 minutes+ then I think the first thing to work on is your endurance

I am not disabled, there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to stand for 40 mins, or do 10 pushups, or lift myself over a wall, or carry someone my exact weight a distance of idk 60m???? Why shoudn't I beable to do these things?? Ok, thank you for helping me type this

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Everything but that last one is within your reach. I weigh 180 pounds but there is no chance I could carry someone the same weight 60 meters, and I consider myself in decent shape.

I just did some work with a tool that weighs 70 pounds and i can barely lift it into a truck.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the reference point, I weigh about the same so I guess I don't have to be able to carry a person

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

what are normal people such that they are not like the friends I've had??

It does not matter if you have OCD or not; these people seem to consistently not care about your suggestions. If I tell my friends, "I really wanna play Space Base," then we make it happen.

These people sound like the type who would not check up on you if you just suddenly stopped responding, and those are not friends. I would try to make new friends elsewhere... Sorry!

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

One thing every other comment has failed to mention is that, to be comfortable around other people, you must first be comfortable with yourself fully. And, because of that, I recommend you keep doing activities by yourself, and try new things by yourself, at least at first. Discover who you actually want to be, while still respecting everyone's freedom, including your own.

[–] slakje@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

First, it’s not only you: making plans that accommodate everyone’s schedules and budgets can be tricky, especially if a lot of people are involved, so you might not be doing anything wrong. You can try letting them know what you want to do earlier in advance so that they know not to make plans for the day. People are more likely to respond to concrete dates, times, and locations instead of vague ones.

Also not all of your friends are going to share your hobbies and interests and that’s ok. Try inviting just the ones you know for sure enjoy the things you do, or joining clubs or activity groups for those things to potentially meet new people to do them with. The time with your other friends can be spent on things you know they want to participate in and can afford.

Appreciate the honesty about the AI disclaimer.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Make friends with people who also love what you love?

No, it isn't wrong to want to choose your friends based on your hobbies. It's healthy. Sure, you will need some flexibility. It can't all be your way all the time. But generally you want friends who enjoy the same activities and "things" you do. You want enough similarities to have stuff to do and talk about, but enough differences that you aren't just repeating the same things to each other.

And as with most relationships, a small handful of great ones can sustain us for longer and more deeply than a deluge of shallow and circumstantial ones.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago

I've learned that it's important to spent time on my interests, and it's important to spend time on my friends, but trying to do both at once sometimes cheapens both.

I'd suggest scheduling just chill hangouts with friends, and keep doing the wild things they can't afford by yourself.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I tell my friends hey im doing X on this day if you want to come. Sometimes they will say "I cant do X day can you move it?" and ill decide if I want to and if its fine then i reschedule otherwise I go without them. Plans never get changed from what I originally set.

if I just want to hangout and dont care about the activity I just ask if they want to meet up and do something making it clear the activity is open for anything. We then throw around ideas and whichever has the most interest we do.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

This is very normal. Especially if you don't have kids and some of your friends do, or if your work schedule isn't a standard 9 to 5 and all your friends are on that. Once your group gets bigger than 5 or 6 people, coordinating schedules is basically impossible.

Don't take it personally. It's likely nothing about trying to change your plans, but rather just trying to find some middle ground in the plans that works for everyone. Don't set your own expectations so high that anything that isn't perfect leaves you miserable.

You have 2 options: 1) As mentioned, just say at this time in this day you're doing something and anyone who wants to join is free to do so, knowing full well that some people will feel FOMO. 2) Try and do something and be fine with the plans changing to get the larger group, because that's the point, not the activity itself.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't have any shared hobbies or interests with any of my friends (and very few with my wife!) besides going somewhere, putting things in our mouths and yapping the day/night away. Idk, it never felt weird to me, but I might just be a bit of a boring guy since I mostly like reading, talking (IRL and online) and playing single-player videogames so it all fits for me?

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

going somewhere, putting things in our mouths and yapping the day/night away

I fucking hate that this is all that I have. I am so dry and 2 dimentional, I'm litterally just [ Gay, Linux ]. I'm searching so fucking hard for more

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I am mostly unsure about what you consider friendship. From your description, they are a (big?) group of people that you meet once or twice a year and when you do you don’t enjoy it. At most, I would consider them acquaintances.

Try looking for connections in groups that tailor towards what you like. Join meetups and such on topics of your interest and try to scout for interesting people in there.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

they are a (big?) 2 group of people that you meet once or twice a year and when you do you don’t enjoy it

That is what it has been recently. Prior to that it has been gigantic groups of which I belonged to a subset of 2~6 outcasted people who usually represented 90% of my awareness of the rest of the group.

I know why I was an outcast for most of my youth, I've fixed that.

At most, I would consider them acquaintances.

That's the thing, those two were the people who I feel like I had the deepest connection with ever. They were there when most of my support circle went away and I think I even had a crush on one of them. But the thing is that I realized that my relationship with the one I had a crush on was completely my own projection who I objectivly know very little about and the other one was a semi transactional relationship. Was any of it ever real?

Join meetups

The meetup app has gone downhill hard in NYC, I've just about given up on it

such on topics of your interest and try to scout for interesting people in there

:+1:

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[–] bent@feddit.dk 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I started doing things that I want, and if others join me, thats awesome, if noone comes along I'll just go alone. I've met a lot of new people this way and it has worked wonders on my social skills.

It allows me to get a lot of new experiences without the hassle of having some miserable being tagging along. And it gives me interesting stories to tell when I meet up with my long time friends. Some of them even want to join some of my adventures.

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[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be helpful to have an example (or more) of what you suggested and what ended up happening.

Other people have good advice, but I'm wondering if you are planning things which are a bit niche, or if your friends have strange interests, or if you find it difficult to enjoy normal activities.

There are lots of activities that people do that I'm not that interested in, but I'll go along anyway and still have a good time - it wouldn't be my first choice, and I'd be annoyed if my plans always got taken over in favour of them, but I wouldn't be "visibly miserable" doing something like this: for example, one time we ended up going out for "electric shuffle" (just shuffleboard which is electronically scored) which is pretty expensive for what it is, but whatever. The main attraction is being with friends and interacting, anyway.

I remember one time I planned a cycling trip and everyone I invited ended up doing something else (I can't remember what, but I remember distinctly it being something they could have done on any weekend). I was a bit miserable at that but still had a good time on my own.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Listed some of it in this comment: https://programming.dev/post/37296315/19332878

but I’m wondering if you are planning things which are a bit niche

There was variaty. I strived to recommend varying levels of specificity in the plans, anywhere from requiring tickets to just going to the park bc I'm sick of being inside.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What are these “friends” of which you speak?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I think it's a television show

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

"Friends" are characterised as individual's not related by any other recognizable class of relation who convert your time and attention into enrichment and fulfillment while also providing you with an optional datum point for regulating yourself (am I too far behind the people who I like for making good choices, do I have habits or addicitons that I don't know are toxic and I need to see if other people are like this too so I can tell if I'm normal, do I like my definition of normal if not then should I find different friends who might be an environment where I can be a different normal?)

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah this is why I hate making plans, no one else puts in any effort into finding things to do or they don't want to pay for anything and then every outing becomes sitting in a bar shooting shit or going to a movie that either I don't care for or the others don't, I usually just do things by myself these days and I enjoy it a lot more, maybe someday I'll find friends with common interest I actually want to hang out with, for now I've become very comfortable being by myself

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

That's the neat part, I don't!

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I find friends who enjoy the things I like to do??

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Hello, friend.

[–] underreacting@literature.cafe 1 points 13 hours ago

Have you tried this:

-> You suggest [specific activity]

-> They suggest alteration

-> You say, "I actually really want to do [specific activity] this time, but we can do [their suggestion] next time!"

-> (1) They agree. Else (2) They insist on changing it

-> You ask why they don't want to do your suggestion

-> They hopefully have an explanation you can understand so you either feel better about changing the activity, or you go to the activity alone and do their suggestion with them another time (both are just as good!)

There's nothing rude about planning something and inviting people to the activity. If they don't want to join they can say no and you're still allowed to follow through with your plan.

Suggestions for activities to do on your own where your current friends can join if they want but you can also do alone and meet new people at the activity:

cooking class,

dancing class,

amateur theater/improv,

book club (I'm sure there are open book clubs to join at your local library, or you can ask the librarians to put up a flyer and start one... I do 1-on-1 book clubs with different friends at different times when we figure out a book we want to read. We just set a chapter goal and call once or twice a week to check in on each others progress and yap about our thoughts on the book so far. Not every activity needs to include the whole friend group every time - they're all unique persons with different interests and time availability),

join an orientation club,

volunteer somewhere (I like animal shelters, but might be more interaction with other volunteers at something aimed at humans or political/societal),

visit an orchard and pick seasonal fruit/veggies (may not be super social with strangers)

join a hiking tour, especially likely to be social if it's over several days,

go to concerts and festivals,

go to a meetup/show for motorcycles or old cars or something (initiate socialising by asking questions about, and giving people compliments on, what they brought to show off (car, MC, vinyl collection) )

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