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According to videogame patent lawyer Kirk Sigmon, the USPTO granting Nintendo these latest patents isn't just a moment of questionable legal theory. It's an indictment of American patent law.

"Broadly, I don't disagree with the many online complaints about these Nintendo patents," said Sigmon, whose opinions do not represent those of his firm and clients. "They have been an embarrassing failure of the US patent system."

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 124 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I can't wait to play Elden Ring 2 when it's made by Nintendo because Elden Ring used summoning and now only runs at 12 fps.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 64 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nintendo also owns the rights to platformers, racing games, and rpgs. Tough luck, that's just how it is.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

NPC dialogs? Owned by Nintendo too.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] addie@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Or 'love hotels'. You want to rent a room by the hour, Mario gets his cut.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it was made by Nintendo (not Gamefreak) it would actually be optimized

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If by optimized you mean removing most details and adding a cartoon filter over it.

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Terrible legal practices aside.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Nintendo deserves a lot of shit for their business decisions, but not for their art directions. windwaker and sunshine still look good to this day by simply appling higher resolutions and some anti aliasing. No game with "realistic graphics" has ever stood the test of time.

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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 100 points 3 days ago

This is why I can't support Nintendo.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 80 points 3 days ago (2 children)

death to intellectual property

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 day ago

And nintendo.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

nah, death to all intellectual property. it’s not better when it’s physical. in fact, in some cases, it’s much much worse; like with medicine patents

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Patents are not intellectual property and they are regulated by the patent office. Intellectual property is not regulated and cannot be blanket dismissed.

We just need someone competent on patent offices

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are patents not intellectual property?

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Patents are made on concepts. IPs are made on the complete production.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That doesn't seem to be true. Patents are listed foremost among types of IP in multiple sources.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

An embarrassing failure describes the US quite well actually. Also fuck Nintendo. Don't give them your money.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 62 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm going to patent electrons passing through a xor gate

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

You can get a licence from Nintendo if you like.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can probably get away with it if you write it in a confusing enough fashion; but you need to make it really confusing - to the point even CPU architecture experts could miss it unless they pay very close attention; and remember that the claims - which are the only part of the patent that has any legal meaning - may be limited by law to a single sentence each, but there is no limit on how cumbersome each sentence is; additionally, semicolons are not sentence terminators; this means that this entire comment I just wrote is technically a only one sentence.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Nah, you just need to get a friendly judge to tell whoever decides to dispute your patent that they're wrong and your patent is totally valid and innovative

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

patent nand and nor! You'll get much more out of it

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prior art exists of that though so you wouldn't be able to. I know you're making a joke though lol.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Nintendo can patent MOUNTS in the year of our lord 2025, that lemming can patent logic gates.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I thought this was about the ball throwing to capture monsters

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They filed a fuck load of patents. This is one of them.

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Translation: mounts that can walk and fly. Which already exist in God knows how many games.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

I fucking hate Nintendo.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago

Capcom should start their patent for 2D fighting games and see what happens to Super Smash Bros

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago

The USPTO is notorious for granting insane patents knowing they are invalid or too vague and expect the court system to be the final arbiter. It’s almost as if they like stirring shit up for there own amusement.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Someone in the patent office got bribed.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This entire regime is for sale. Top to bottom.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get ready for "anti-woke" Nintendo games!

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

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Get ready for whatever this is

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm fully stopped. Now what?

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] addie@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

The time for "collaborate and listen" has passed. Now, the time for Nintendo to bring down hammer go hammer mc hammer yo hammer and the rest can go and play has arrived.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

“They have been an embarrassing failure of the US ~~patent system.~~ “ seems like a trend these days

[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm surprised that Palworld was even able to release, honestly.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's frustrating is that the thing that is arguably questionable (the art of some of the characters) isn't what is the subject of anything. Nope. Ball throwing.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's because copyright and trademark are more specific than patents. You have to use the exact look to be in violation. Patents are more of a vibes protection. You can sue for close enough.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why? Anybody who's played it knows it only has a passing resemblance to Pokémon. Once you play the game, you realize how different it is in its mechanics and story from pokemon.

Nintendo doesn't own the idea of monster taming. The idea predates their company by quite a bit actually.

[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I agree, but Nintendo usually gets away with legally bullying companies

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