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AAA game? Performance issues and crashing on release? Why I never.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 126 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Don't buy gearbox games. Pitchford is a self important head in the sands salesman. Along with Tim Sweeny, they're a couple of the most used car salesman types in gaming

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I can think of just 1 guy who is even more of a used car salesman... Chris Roberts. Literally has been selling digital spaceships like used cars. Including the actual prices of the digital ships being roughly the same as a used car.

[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

As a diehard fan of the Wing Commander series, you take that back right now! Right now!

I bought, and still have, every single Wing Commander game released as they launched. Core experience of my early gaming days.

All kidding aside, Star Citizen is a steaming shit pile of a grift that has gone on for far too long.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Don't forget Todd Howard. He’s the ultimate example of a Tesla salesman who has a self driving car drive itself into a ditch and then he says “it just works.“

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[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I briefly watched Jackfrags video on it. The graphics aren't even anything special, the world isn't overly populated and I can't imagine there would be any overly complex calculations running in the background and it performs like shit.

Fuck these fucks.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 83 points 2 days ago (9 children)

It's Unreal Engine 5, so the bad performance is included by default. I've played 4 UE5 titles in recent months and all of them ran terrible even though they were far from groundbreaking graphically.

Hell, I could play the gorgeous KCD2 on high settings at a buttery smooth 60FPS but apparently I need to set everything to the very lowest and down to 720p to get the same result on much worse looking Unreal games.

[–] teft@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I could play the gorgeous KCD2

Now is a great time to play it again. The newest DLC just dropped. Henry gets his own forge. I'm liking it a lot so far.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I’ve played two games (off the top of my head) that run UE5. Remnant II and Payday 3. Both have performance problems.

Remnant II is just overall poorly optimised. Payday 3 has weird random hitches. Granted they seem like they might be server side because when I get them my friend does too, almost simultaneously, and vice-versa.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wayfinder uses ue5 and runs just fine.

That is the only example I have.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Clair Obscur and Hellblade 2 also ran great on my Steam Deck. And I suspect Fortnite does as well.

My guess is that developers of the other games just pour in high def assets without using any of UE5's crazy LoD techniques.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's the thing. UE5 CAN run well, if you don't use most of its fancy features. But then what's the point of that dumb engine?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just because it can load in high quality assets doesn't mean that everything has to be 4 billion polygons. You use it sparingly for where it will make the most impact. That doesn't mean that a mountain in the background that you'll never get near has to be of the same quality.

I don't think that's really the engines fault.

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Expedition 33

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Same. My graphics card upgrade did little to help out performance on S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The weirdest thing to me is that the graphics settings don't make much of a difference. There's like a 20 FPS gain between "Ultra" and "Lowest" and I could barely tell which one it is just based on the visuals alone. How do Unreal devs mess up their optimization so consistently across many games? Surely the problem must be somewhat related to the engine itself.

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[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 days ago (15 children)

That franchise hasn't been good since BL2

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

BL2 was great. Some of its DLC was even better. Assault on Dragon Keep is one of the best looter shooters ever made. The gameplay was a blast. The jokes were funny..And out of left field it broke your fucking heart by secretly being about a young, traumatized girl's grief.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't out of left field. They telegraphed it frequently.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yes. The out of left field had more to do with what was expected going in. We all expected silly D&D and fart jokes. We didn't expect a legitimately touching examination of grief and denial to bring depth to a silly character.

[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

...and then they turned it into spinoff game with Wanda Sykes' voice constantly grating your brain into shredded cheese

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[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

3 was the best out of all of them from a gameplay perspective. People don't like the story but I never cared for any of the borderlands stories personally.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Let's be honest, the only story missions we ever cared about were those starring Handsome Jack.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also... why now? BL games always get 90% off eventually, lol.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, but then you have to install EGS.

[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

Or you can use heroic games launcher and never have to install egs

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's fine. The weekly free games are worth it. I've played some weird and cool games I would have never found otherwise thanks to EGS' free games.

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[–] mereo@piefed.ca 44 points 2 days ago

sigh... This generation of games will all suck because of Unreal Engine 5. I'm a patient gamer, I have plenty of unplayed games on my Steam library. I will not upgrade my video card because of this horrendous game engine.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't buy fucking Gearbox games. Jesus fucking shit on a bike chrisy. I have been saying that for over a decade.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Gonna just remind everyone, or tell anyone who isn't familiar... Gearbox's Colonial Marines has a typo in an ini file that breaks the game's AI. Gearbox was made aware of it after a modder found it in 2018. They acknowledged it by making a joke, then did nothing...

That one letter typo is still there after 13 years.

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[–] Highlandcow@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Half-life opposing forces was good atleast

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Can’t play your new $80 game due to performance and crashing issues? Hey, if you’re a real fan you’ll find a way to make it happen.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

One of the reasons being patent with games is worth it. In a year, they may fix the bugs, they may not. But the only thing you lose is a bit of time playing other games. And cheaper too :D

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But but but IGN gave it an 8/10 and said it was the best game in the franchise! Did they lie, are they out of touch, or are they working with publishers to try to smooth over the transition into more expensive games?

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They noted the perforemance issues in their review

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yet it doesn't seem to negatively effect the score

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

And it still has the loss of focus in the inventory screen bug that's plagued the game since the first one.

[–] towamo7603@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

It literally crashed while Conan was doing a Clueless Gamer promo for it.

[–] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 13 points 2 days ago

Randy you didn't fucking disappoint. This is exactly the game and the results I was expecting

[–] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's a fun game, and I'm enjoying my time with it, but the fact that I'm getting 40fps at 1080p with a 5080 is frankly ridiculous. Unreal Engine 5 is such a curse on this generation of games.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

denuvo strikes again

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 day ago

I forgot they were even making this game. BL3 was kind of bad, the pre sequel was painful. The tiny Tina one was okay but weirdly had no ng+ and shitty dlc. Meh.

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