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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 104 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Well, Grok is right about one thing: Charlie Kirk getting shot is a meme video. A NSFL meme video, but a meme video none the less.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The very last word out of his mouth was "violence". You couldn't dream of a more ironic twist. If it was fiction, the writers would be sacked for being too on the nose.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

If it was fiction, the writers would be sacked for being too on the nose.

Too on the neck.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And it was turning around the question about the number of mass shootings in the US to focus on gang violence

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

And "gang violence" in that context is a racist dogwhistle.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

My dad has been saying that ck was never impolite, never insulting, never sarcastic, but tell me his last words weren’t sarcastic and racist.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I'm waiting for someone to take the gunshot sound and make an EDM track with it

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Is Grok ~~thinking~~ parsing that it's an AI video and not real? Why would grok ~~think~~ parse that.

[–] az04@lemmy.world 161 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Because it's been trained on data from when Charlie Kirk was alive.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good point, but wouldn't it be time sensitive? Meaning, it would give more weight to recent events? I'm going with the "kirk is always right theory."

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can set up an MCP server in front of the LLM so that it can reach out to external APIs, like news sites/feeds/etc..

But, the majority of its behavior is going to be from its original training set, which is likely 12+ months old at this point. The pipeline for this is so long to generate and refine a good new AI model, that your data sets are constantly out of date.

An MCP server will only get you so far.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Duckduckgo's AI search seems to slightly agree with you, meaning Futurism and Engadget:

Grok, the AI chatbot, initially spread misinformation about Charlie Kirk's death by claiming he survived the shooting and that videos of the incident were fake. This confusion stemmed from the chatbot's inability to accurately process breaking news and conflicting information, leading to a series of incorrect statements before eventually acknowledging Kirk's death.

That means AI really, really sucks and can be manipulated easily.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kinda ironic that you posted a quote from Duckduckgo’s AI to make a point that AI sucks and is easy to manipulate.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our entire future of internet use from now until the next major technological upheaval is going to consist ENTIRELY of going between different shitty AI models to try to get enough coherent answers that we can possibly, maybe figure out some shred of truth.

While the vast bulk of humanity just accepts whatever their most convenient chat model tells them.

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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Grok has clearly been instructed to defend Charlie Kirk in every context and to assert he "wins" in any given situation. Right-wing people like Kirk and Musk are obsessed with image and not losing face. Grok, like Kirk was programmed to simulate the kind of rationalizations and vernacular that appeal to right-wingers, and so it tries to spin-doctor Kirk getting capped as "actually he's fine lol shut up nerd". I think it's hilarious, because it implies "Defend Charlie Kirk" is excruciatingly over-emphasized in the LLM's instruction set to compensate for the fact that Kirk actually got humiliated regularly.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And this is why you should never trust Grok, or any LLM for that matter, to be completely free from, well, just making shit up. This is because they do not think. They do not understand context. They are incapable of actual understanding. They are a next word guesser. Pure and simple. And when it has been trained to be bat shit crazy. Well you get bat shit crazy.

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[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Grok is an LLM and doesn't think at all.

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

It must have been fake because his real face doesn't fill his whole head like that.

Is Grok thinking

No. That's the sci-fi version of AI. It's outputting predictive text based on the slurry or horrible shit said on twitter.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

fElon has been ripping apart grok and having its code rewritten to be more right wing. Had some new name like super mecha nazi grok or some such for it and grok was spewing right wing diatribe.

RIP the real grok

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like the words "You will never say anything disparaging about Charlie Kirk" are hard-coded in his training set.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's, the pronoun is it's. It's not a person. Don't fucking give shitty ai humanity.

[–] Odo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Its. No apostrophe unless you're abbreviating "it is".

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 40 points 1 day ago

The statistical word parrot is going to repeat what is statistically the most likely state of a famous person throughout its training data

[–] svc@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep. Thanks Grok. Yes, it was fake. We all know it was fake. Simple fact. No need to investigate, procecute, argue or fight over it. He's well and will keep posting shit if he wants to, or he just retired by choice. Time will tell.

Nothing happened; carry on everyone!

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Fake: video was edited Gay: someone shot his load on his neck

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Imagine the world where this actually was a meme shot gone wrong. Maybe Kirk went a little nuts and decided to try to duplicate Trump's miracle near miss. The ultimate way to build credit among the right wing. Kirk hires a sharpshooter to give him a near miss, to just graze him with a bullet. And...well...the sharpshooter missed...

Now, I don't find this scenario particularly likely, as I don't think any of these right wing social media goobers are brave enough to actually put their person in such direct risk like that. And you have to be pretty fucking dense to hire someone to shoot a gun in your direction. But it is fun to imagine that wonderfully absurd scenario.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Naw, it was an assassination. Something only a government would want to pull off.

That leaves us with three likely candidates and a couple of unlikely.

If feel pretty strongly that because of the laser quick response this administration was aware beforehand.

The primary candidate would be the US. We all know that they love false flag operations and with the tide turning against this administration it needs a war or some major travesty to distract.

The second would be Israel. Their house of cards is about to fall and they have done similarly desperate terrorist acts like this before.

The third would be Russia the master shot caller who has been responsible for a lot of the far right movements we are familiar with.

I will admit your scenario is infinitely more entertaining and creative than what we are actually dealing with.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You mean he might have Smollet himself? I like it.

There was that one YouTuber who was killed when he had his GF shoot a book he was holding for a stunt (thinking the book would stop the bullet).

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Holy crap that's awesome and scary. I'll never understand how so many take what these things say at face value. If only the public weren't so easily assuaged we could realize how dangerous this is.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And if the public was more easily sausaged I'd be getting laid right now.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Denial is part of greiving.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Like trying to argue with a real nazi. Seriously why are seemingly normal people even on that garbage platform?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 20 points 1 day ago

Omg, the math shoggoth unable to change can't incorporate new information???

What a shock

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OK, it was is exact moment that I actually fully believed this is a simulation with the 'surreal' parameter maxed out.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I recently learned the term for this feeling is ‘derealization.’

And I too increasingly feel like I’m in someone’s game of The Sims and they’re just fucking with me more and more to see how insane things can get before I lose my mind.

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[–] don@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My man Grok settin’ the record straight for the ‘20s, and keepin’ it real af. He ain’t fooled by all that “Charlie Kirk took a round to the neck and suddenly became Old Faithful!” hoopty-jazz, so y’all can give up with that nonsense.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

Dude do you know how hard I'd fucking laugh if he turned up like "Ahh what's up online, let's see... What? Shot? No me and the family were in The Poconos for the weekend, I'm fine!" And it was an AI deepfake the whole fucking time and now NOBODY CAN TRUST ANYTHING FOREVER lmao. Not that I like the guy but like, one day that'll happen, an AI deepfake of something will sweep the internet as "real" before being proven false and everyone who believed will be deeply unsettled, and here's the hopeful bit: maybe then we can convince a critical mass of people against AI.

But yeah if he did I'd laugh so hard my neck would just do that.

[–] oasis@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

@grok is this true?

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Sounds like some shit Elon would say, it really is made in his image.

[–] quacky@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That's hilarious

Now, now, now. Grok is right. Charlie "My Face is Tiny" Kirk wasn't shot. The only thing was a hoax.

My evidence? All these "students" ran away when the "shots" happened. The average college student is going to be so desensitize to gun violence due the amount of school shootings they experience. Real students would have continued along as if nothing had happened.

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