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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ya, that’s the whole point.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I dunno, the strategy of the US hurting themselves in their confusion seems to be working pretty darn good.

They should be getting tired of all that winning any moment now.

You vastly underestimate the stupidity of my country's people. They will blame the "woke left" and immigrants and everyone else but T**** and his administration.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

We are a helpful people, we are just helping them along.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Canada’s retaliation will not hurt the fascists — it will help them.

The fascists paint us as villains, as scapegoats to distract the American public from their actual societal problems and keep them angry and engaged at an external target.

When they hit us and we hit back, we will cause them harm. The fascists will spin this harm as justification for the pre-existing vilification. They had already established the narrative that we were the cause of their problems and now they’ve turned that lie into the truth.

The fascists do not care that American people will be harmed. They are wealthy and powerful and will be able to live lives of luxury and privilege. Musk could lose 99% of his wealth and still live a life of comfort that goes beyond what anyone reading this would likely ever have.

So no, we will not hurt them with our tariffs or our boycotts. But we don’t do it for them we do it for us. We do it to help build strength and support the industries and workers in our own country and in the countries who like us are fighting back against this.

We do this because we want to feel like our actions have meaning to ourselves, to make us feel like we are part of the process of fighting back and saying that no, we will not acquiesce to the fascists.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, literally none of these issues existed until Trump created them and if people can't see that then there just isn't much hope.

Maybe when the perfectly healthy at transition social security system collapses within 6 months of Trump taking office, people will wake up.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

So let’s take the renouned intellectual Joe Rogan as an example.

Earlier on he said “why are we picking on Canada”, and now he’s switched his tune to “I won’t go to Canada”. Because when they get pushback it doesn’t feel nice, and they side with their own because that’s easier and that’s what the propaganda machines are pushing.

This is example of how not only will not they wake up, their attitudes will continue to worsen. Right now white Democrats are thinking “oh phew, they aren’t coming for us right now, we are safe” even if they don’t admit it to even themselves.

I know this because this was me, when the targets were Muslims and Mexicans and Haitians what did I do besides fret my brow and say “golly gee that’s too bad” but didn’t do anything. The difference is that now Canadians are getting lumped in with the bad guys now and holy shit does it look a lot different when the barrel is pointed at you.

Sorry this is a long rant and not entirely directed at you.

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

They are too stupid to realize it.