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HMD announces made in Europe smartphone (for governments)? with secure element (www.hmdsecure.com)
submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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The specs are wild, this is likely going to be very expensive

It has a secure element so it could run Graphene no? The only problem is that it's not a mainstream device so I don't think it's going to be supported.

A similar device that's currently released is Nokia XR21, but the only pro is that it's manufactured in Hungary

Don't bother with HMD's candybar dumbphones if you wanna escape Android, mine calls 999 (ambulance) if I put it in the backpack and it did it two times on its own (HMD 110 4G 2024), flip phones shouldn't have this problem though.

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[โ€“] passepartout@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This looks like it is marketed to governments and critical infrastructure, so it probably won't be buyable or at least affordable.

But I hope this was the vendor GrapheneOS had in mind for their planned OEM lineup. And I very much want to have one, the specs and look of it are insane.

[โ€“] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

This thing will be more expensive that a folding phone, heck, even two foltding phones. Being a top-end phone manufactured in Europe is expensive.

[โ€“] Captain_Baka@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sounds like a phone that'll cost something like 1800-3000โ‚ฌ. I'll pass and stay with Fairphone.

[โ€“] somewa@suppo.fi 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is Hungary any better than China tho?

[โ€“] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago

from a climate change perspective according to this:

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/HU/72h/hourly

way better

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Theyโ€™re way more democratic.

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

And also pretty darn anti-LGBT rights.

[โ€“] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

True but not a high bar for them to clear given China is literally not a democracy

[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I was about to comment that Hungary barely qualifies as EU nowadays but yes they are better

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't HMD the new owner of nokia phones or am i confusing things?

[โ€“] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

HMD used to manufacture (I don't think they'll release any new Nokia phone till the end ofthe year) phones using the Nokia brand, because Nokia licensed it to them. The license ends with the end of this year. From that point on HMD will make devices under their own brand.

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did they also do the production of nokia phones before they licensed the brand or only during?

[โ€“] MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago

Nokia->M$->HMD

[โ€“] petrescatraian@libranet.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

mine calls 999 (ambulance) if I put it in the backpack and it did it two times on its own (HMD 110 4G 2024)

What the actual fuck?!?

[โ€“] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 3 points 3 days ago

The keypad lock feature is really bad. You know the feature in smartphones where even on the lockscreen there is an "emergency call" button, so anyone can call? In the HMD candybar phones, you can just press "9" and it bypasses the keyboard lock. So if you put the phone in a bag and the buttons get pressed randomly, eventually it will reach "999". Then it's a matter of the green call button being randomly pressed and it calls the ambulance.

The emergency team even called me back asking why do I keep calling and do I need help, as they wanted to block my number from calling them.

[โ€“] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If they had better legislation, they wouldn't need phones like that.

[โ€“] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

As in? What legislation would not lead to such a phone?