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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Ooh, anti-democracy propaganda started early this cycle. I guess cons aren't so sure about this one so they had to start this voting supression psyop this time of the year.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How'd "not voting to punish the dems" work last time?

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

voting only works if you also put in the work after the fact. When biden got elected, suddenly all the political fervor of the previous ~4 years vanished. And, assuming we get out of the current morass in one piece, it's likely that all the uproar going on now will similarly disappear once "our guy" is in the oval office again.

Voting is the least any person can do, but without pounding the pavement and going out and doing the legwork, it's just a bone they throw to us so we shut up. It happens every time, in every presidential election I can remember, and yet there are still people out here saying "but dae vote or dont complain!!:!:!:!:!"!"!"!?!!:!L!". It's insulting.

There are few, if any, actually effective political movements that relied solely on officially approved political avenues to achieve anything. The Civil Rights movement in the US didn't merely vote until the federal government deigned them worthy of being treated like human beings; they got out in the streets and demanded equality. The Indian Independence movement didn't succeed by only appealing to the official colonial political apparatus using whatever methods were allowed them. They went and earned it.

So, whenever the liberal voting bloc is ready to stop letting themselves be politically infantilized by the electoral process, get at me.

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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Of two evils, you have to choose the lesser. Well, for those in power, so to speak, power corrupts or simply leaves no choice, so the choice is not easy.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Leftists: Don't worry it's late stage capitalism so inevitably it will all fall apart without us needing to do anything. If we voted for Kamala, nothing would be different anyway, so it's a good thing we're doing nothing.

Leftism is all about making people feel good about doing nothing. And that's the point. Online socialism is monetized (like everything else online) so they need to convince you to feel good about buying from the merch stores of online "socialist influencers".

It's a similar grift to the incel dating advice scam. If they gave good advice and your life improved you would stop consuming their content. Monetized socialism is always trying to sabotage liberals because if liberals were successful in improving people's lives, the monetized socialists would lose their income stream. Liberals are a natural ally to socialists, but they are the competition to monetized socialists.

So monetized socialists (Hasan, Vaush, etc) will constantly tell you how bad liberals are, because liberals are competition to them and they only care for that sweet monetization money.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

> Leftism is all about making people feel good about doing nothing.

Just wanted to reiterate this for anyone who scrolls past too quickly.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago

It's stupid imo to not give these grifters their own class and throwing every applicable welfare state ideas out with the babies.. how can an entire species of political stance be about doing nothing..? There's a real issue with sofa sitters that I have been flabbergasted by for fifteen years now since I saw it. But it applies to the entire united states

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Feel good about doing nothing? Have you actually watched a Vash or Hasan stream. Yeah the bad outcome is almost totally guaranteed at this point in time. But we're still being basically yelled at to go phone, bank or organize.

As for monetization. Welcome to capitalism. You either monetize or you go out of business. Better to monetize and spread propaganda than be too holy to be effective.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hasan is purely outrage farming and nothing more. He builds no electoral power, has no goals to move to, and couldn't care less to build coalitions. You know, the stuff you gotta do to get things done. He needs his viewer base to remain angry all the time because at this point he is completely audience captured and his subsistence depends on him just yapping to Twitter headlines all day.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You either monetize or you go out of business.

And what business would that be? The business of getting you to buy from their merch store so they can increase their wealth. They are all millionaires and they've convinced you that's all good and fine because they do their shows from sets that look like college dorms. That's the para-social thing grifters do where they make to feel like they're your friends which is why you feel the need to stick up for them.

Do you really believe millionaires want a socialist revolution? LOL

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The business of organizing and spreading leftist propaganda.

I believe some millionaires want socialist revolution. Remember the bourgeoisie are not happy, even if they are better off than everyone else. They're alienated from their fellow man. The system keeps them afraid, makes them think their only option is to make more money. This all causes further isolation and fear.

If you're so concerned about it. You should probably get off Lemmy. The people who run Lemmy servers are running a business. They accept donations just like Vaush and Hassan. You're tainting yourself with capitalism by even posting here.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are insane if you don't think all people can want socialist revolution. This is exactly the edge where you become violent and hostile. Boohooo you are not rich. It's not about that. It's about the abundance being kept from those in need to encourage slave like working conditions.. of course you can be against that even if you are a millionaire.

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