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[–] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 2 points 2 days ago

You mean that reality might have been created by intelligent being(s)? wow.. Nobody ever thought about that one before.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

My favorite part of these types of discussions is the human brain trying its best to rationalize something it can not understand with a human understanding. If this is a simulation you can't reach beyond you station. You are limited, held back by rules and laws yet you feel special or that you have an inkling about anything all because you're programmed with ego and a sense of individualism.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Less than the odds that we are living in a false vacuum.

[–] Cattail@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I have no idea of the odds. Whatever reality is we could simulate it then conclude that a simulation like that could be running out reality. What could we observe about our reality that would make it simulation proof?

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Probably about the same as for whether a god exists.

[–] helmet91@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Here are a bunch of arguments pro and contra: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nvdcDuIZVvg

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

99.999999999999999999999999999%

(Rounded)

[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Measured subjectively, the chance that I am in a simulation is higher than that anyone else is, since in that case some or all of you might be merely simulated.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

If it is possible to stimulate reality to this level of detail, very low. If it's possible that the simulation can then run another instance of the simulation with no loss of fidelity and that is true for any simulation within the stack, still low but much more likely than before. If the chance of this simulation existing is higher than the odds for a universe that can sustain intelligent life, then it becomes about even odds.

The people who claim otherwise are mathematicians who forgot how reality works, as they get into an infinite spiral of higher and higher odds without any basis in reality.

The reason why it gets to even-at-best is because the simulation needs to exist in a reality at some point, and it really, really stretches the imagination that someone could build this shit. So, then you're attaching the odds of intelligent life in a universe to the odds of then some intelligent life understanding literally every aspect of reality and being able to build said simulation (and then that repeats on every simulation).

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

On the one hand. Why. Oh why. Would anyone make the simulation so crappy. On the other hand if there was a creator god that exists outside the universe then we 100% would be a simulation compared to that gods existence.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

We have a physical representation of a divide by 0 function that exists in the universe. Black holes. I'd say it's fairly likely.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I saw someone analyse this on YouTube once. As I remember it, if you assume two possibilities are equally likely until we have information favouring one or the other (the principle of indifference), it depends on if we make any simulated universes. If we do, there's basically no way we're in the first. Otherwise, there's a chance this is the base reality.

One can question whether the principle of indifference applies here, though. Or even if a deeper reality we can never access counts as a an object you can talk about normally. For example, pragmatic epistemology would say no.

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