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[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 312 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Weird way to spell "How automated DMCA take-down requests are ruining the internet for everyone"

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 103 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

More like "How DMCA is ruining the internet" considering these companies are just complying with the law.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think it says automated takedown requests, not automated reactions to those requests.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The reactions are legal compliance

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. So? How is that relevant, if we are talking about companies automating the requests with no regards for their accuracy ruining the internet? Isn't it a given?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Because the companies have no say in the matter. It doesn't matter if they're accurate or not, they have to comply with the law by taking them down.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Again, it's not the companies complying with the takedowns we are complaining about. It's the companies that automatically send takedowns, with no regard for whether the takedowns are legitimate. These companies are supposed to have a duty to verify their copyright claim is valid before sending a takedown. But no one is enforcing it, so they don't do it. That is the biggest issue here. We need to punish companies and individuals for sending illegitimate takedown requests.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 minutes ago

I don't understand why you just keep repeating yourself

These companies are supposed to have a duty to verify their copyright claim is valid before sending a takedown

Again, no they don't. They are legally required to take it down by the DMCA until it's disproven.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 47 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, pretty much my takeaway. It's not OF piracy or even enforcement of copyright, it's out of control automation.

[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 hours ago

We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power. It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.

Morpheus, 1999

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 104 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

blames pirates in the headline

goes on to say how it's, yet again, actually an AI problem

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yet all I can see is a copyright problem.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 78 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I feel like the problem mentioned is like a drop in the ocean compared to the enshitification of Google as a whole. Google has been almost unusable even if this didn’t happen.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 43 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Google, sadly, is truely dead.

I moved on to Duckduckgo, because the results really aren't worse. Aren't better either though.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

I find them better. Most of the time. Google is needed every now and then.

DuckDuckGo gets to the point and skips the seo stuff.. Mostly.

Although at this point search is nearly useless no matter what you use.

[–] Stubb@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Google's control over the internet will harm all users as they scram further to find places where profit can be squeezed more and more until they're functionally bankrupt.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

not just internet, they are going to prevent android users from installing any programs they dont approve first. So most likely goodbye f-droid and any opensource program

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What’s funny is google’s bullshit will likely result in a Linux phone that doesn’t suck before we ever see mainstream Linux desktop adoption.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 57 points 8 hours ago

False DMCA takedowns need to be criminalized, companies have abused them for decades now.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 27 points 8 hours ago

The DMCA is what you get when you get greedy media and Internet companies to write legislation for lawmakers that have no idea what any of that means, while in the background the people have not had a chance to use any of it. It should have come with an expiration date 10 years from signing and should have been redone now that we are actually using the stuff.

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but really does that even matter when the top results are just ads anyway? The problem is advertising has taken over search engines and now AI makes it even less likely people "searching" for things will even bother to click off of the search website.

DMCA takedown abuse isn't anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes... I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. "DMCA Automation is ruining the internet" or something to that effect would have been a lot better.

This whole thing is also a scam on content creators, people arent pirating content by searching for it on google, they're finding out about websites by talking to people on discord (which itself is not searchable of course) and other such services. Anyone paying for these kind of takedown services is getting taken for a ride.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago

DMCA takedown abuse isn’t anything new, this article seems like it was just due to 404 media having to deal with it, onlyfans is tangentially related and clearly just used in the headline for clickbait purposes… I really expected better of 404 media, The issue is a valid and increasingly worse one, it shouldnt need a clickbait headline. “DMCA Automation is ruining the internet” or something to that effect would have been a lot better.

That's true, but if the important thing is to draw attention to this issue, this is a good way of doing it even if it's a creative interpretation of the truth.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

Pick a search engine that doesn't hide torrent

[–] etherphon@piefed.world 17 points 12 hours ago

It's fuckin ruined already.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“We don't really review it [the list] because we are an agent for them,” Ananad said. “For the requests that we send out ourselves, usually they get reviewed, but sometimes they [clients] do a search by themselves, and they come across some content and they flag it and they're like, ‘We want this taken down.’ We don't review that because that is something that they want taken down. I'm not particularly sure about this case, but that is what happens. What we planned on doing was also reviewing these but it's usually not very fruitful, because the user is very sure they want that claim. And even if we say, ‘Hey, we don't think you should do that,’ they're like, ‘We want to do it. Just do it because I'm paying you for this.’ And if we just say, do it yourself, that kind of takes away the business from us. So that is basically how it works.”

What?

[–] nullroot@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

They're a cog in a broken machine that needs grease like every other one. It's all just business speak for "why would we want to say something that would make the customer not pay us?"

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 8 points 12 hours ago

Delisted from Google ≠ ruined internet

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

More like how the internet has been enshittified.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago

So ... The piracy is not actually taking down anything.

[–] _druid@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Villify women making money for themselves, and demonize people getting shit for free, and make it sound like these are problems for the common person!

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Well, shiver me timbers!

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Welp, time to delist Google itself