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Leopards Ate My Face

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For weeks, Trump and members of his administration, some of whom spread anti-Democratic conspiracy theories about Epstein, have been trying to quiet the MAGA base after the FBI declared there was no client list and that the disgraced financier died by suicide. The same manosphere that boosted Trump isn’t letting his administration off the hook on Epstein, even as Trump has tried to dismiss the whole thing as a hoax.

The young men in his base aren't doing better economically, and also feel stabbed in the back by Trump's refusal to RELEASE UNREDACTED COPIES OF THE EPSTEIN FILES.

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

What are they gonna do? Not vote for him again? I don't think Trump gives a shit.

The young men in his base aren't doing better economically

Cry me a fucking river and drown in it.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sadly, I think the leopards are only beginning to lick his face.

Unless you mean his followers are getting their faces eaten. Then…

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 16 points 1 month ago

Yes, the young men who followed Trump in 2024 are becoming disillusioned and discouraged by their continued financial problems and broken promises about smashing elite pedophiles. Their lives are still miserable, and their heroic crusade seems to have ended without a satisfied conclusion.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden to Trump Again pipeline is roller-coaster. But I'm afraid it really does exist.

Plenty of lay voters ping-pong between whichever political leader is popular or trending, because their media of choice is more interested in spinning out an exciting, engaging narrative than building any kind of ideology or class character within the audience. Trump was going to "Drain the Swamp" in the same way Obama was going to "Yes We Can" and Bush was going to "Restore Honor and Integrity To The White House".

The end of this ride is just burnout. People getting whiplash from being dragged liberal/conservative/liberal/conservative by their nose for too long and just growing cold and cynical. This lasts until a sufficiently exciting media campaign juices them back up again for one more rug pull.

If you're hoping that there's some subset of people who are Getting What They Deserve, you're falling into the same trap that gave us Trump to begin with. You're losing any kind of faith in a better country or a better kind of politics and just settling for "I hope my ideological opponents are miserable".

The people who really won the Trump '24 campaign are the ones currently crawling into the brains of Third Way Democrats like a worm RFK picked up off a dead dog's carcass. They're not suffering. They're not going to lose the next election cycle, no matter what happens. They won't be the one's getting their faces eaten. They'll just change out their skins for a new set of spots.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's even simpler than that: "Vote the bum out!" is all you need. It is, after all, much easier to oppose than to govern.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the impulse. Not even necessarily a bad one. But you can't vote all the bums out if they're on both sides of the ticket.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Not with THAT attitude!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Man, this guy will sure regret alienating all these people the next time he runs a totally fair election!

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

If he doesnt get 240% of the votes like that liberian guy, i dont want him as president /j

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Young angry and disillusioned men with guns are a problem regardless of if there's an election. They're unpredictable and known for their electric shotgun approach to interacting with leadership

[–] f1error@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago
[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm fairly young myself, 33. College years are still somewhat fresh in my mind. I like to think of young people as really open-minded and enlightened. But young people are also fucking idiots and very impressionable. Check out the YouTube channel "ranting for vengeance" to see a teenager who is mind-bogglingly ignorant. Who raised this fucker? I hate to insult a child, but man, this kid is so prejudiced it will render you speechless.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 19 points 1 month ago

Not gonna give them views.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 1 month ago

Epstein files exposed to them he was not on their team.

Otherwise he is doing what he promised and they like it.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I mean... cool, I guess. Kinda too late to make any difference, though. The time to figure out Trump was a narcissistic tyrant was before voting for him.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No it's not. We've seen headlines for 10 years saying this or that group are starting to sour on Trump, and yet here we are.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Right now, their "declining" support is based solely on the Epstein files. Which means that they'll continue to support fascists as soon as Rogan, Peterson, etc al, can convince them that the Epstein files have been released and were never that interesting, or that maybe we'll never see the Epstein files but that's old news and something else is way more important now.

My bet is on the latter, since that's just a matter of less time spent talking about the Epstein files and more time spent talking about [distraction].

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

lol “voters”

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In my opinion, don't blame the young voters for their choice. At least not entirely. They've been getting spoon fed propaganda by the internet, their parents, and the news their entire lives. Blame the parents that made everything their kids were doing a political issue from the moment they were conceived. Blame the platforms that have been incentivizing hate on their platforms for money. Blame the corporations that have been actively brainwashing people since the era of social media began. Blame the news for never telling the truth and making everything a spectacle.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

People have agency. Don’t take that away from them.

The flip side of this is that it has to be praiseworthy to pass through that gauntlet and still care about other people. Eclusively negative incentives don't work.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

This would matter if they voted, but since they don't, who cares?