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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 209 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've lost the ability to detect whether this is a real quote or not.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago

It's real, sadly, I watched it, my parents in law was watching the stupid statement and I joined them. It was yuck

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

When I started reading the quote, I assumed it was a joke, just from the format, not the content. When I got to the part where it said, "It used to be called the Department of War and it had a stronger sound," I felt the typical disgust and contempt I usually feel when listening to Trump, and so I knew it was almost certainly a genuine quote.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago

Anyone care to enlighten us? Because I honestly can't tell, either.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 152 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] mercano@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

History lesson for anyone who needs it, including occupants of the White House: The Department of Defense was created in 1947 by merging the Department of War, the Department of the Navy, and the recently formed Department of the Air Force. Prior to the merger, the War Department managed only the Army. The name Department of Defense was political: it didn’t reuse any of the names of the former departments, so it couldn’t be seen as one absorbing the others, i.e. the Army absorbing the Navy and the Air Force they had just spun off from the Army Air Corps.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He doesn't understand the negative connotations behind it and why one of the main branches of the empire needs to be obfuscated in euphemism? I kinda believe the mental decline rumours now, lol, or maybe he's just testing the waters to see if Americans still have that bloodthirst like the good ol' Bush days, idk.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I think he just likes to dangle something controversial and shiny in his left hand so you forget he’s hiding the Epstein files behind his back with the right hand. He def knows how to rustle the left’s jimmies, unfortunately.

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think he is just that simple of a man.

Defense is not aggressive and therefore bad. War sounds aggressive so it's good.

That's it. That is the whole thought process of this simpleton.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Because going to war should not be an ambition you dumb fucking fascist!

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Setting aside my Trump hate for a moment: this is a good thing. “Department of Defense” was always a euphemism. “Defense spending” my ass. Let’s call it what it is and then see if Americans feel as good about spending so much on a “Department of War” versus “Defense.”

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thinking like that its a good thing right up until the voters are actually stoked about a department of war.

Guarantee it wont be long until youre seeing red hats going off about how cool it is they finally have a department of war as if its a whole new thing.

"Remember how much ass we kicked with only a defense department? Look out world! MIGHTY TRUMP finally made a department of war too!"

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[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Department of "Defense" is just a whitewashing cover for the fact that its a war department, to help convince Americans we need to spend all of our tax money on it... So sure go ahead and rename it, genius

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 20 points 1 day ago

Agree. It would be a lot more honest to call it the war department.

The Nazis also had a ministry of propaganda which was admirably candid.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"we want offense too"
The obese imbecile being alive is offensive. The fact that it breathes is offensive.
And the fact that it's not strapped to a guillotine that's got a blunt rusty blade is fucking offensive!

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[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it bad that my thought was "well at least that's more accurate"?

My mind went to how "the department of defense" was Orwellian AF. I mean his reasoning is fucked don't get me wrong.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I absolutely agree with you and surprisingly, Trump on this.

Broken clock and all.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can tell he's never read 1984, he'd definitely want more ironically named government departments if he had

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[–] Poojabber@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Yeah, in this rare instance, I agree with Uncle Donny. The US hasnt fought a war for peace or defense in over 75 years. Might as well change the name to more accurately depict its purpose. He is still a moron though....

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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

It's the same reason Captain America beats people up with a shield.

It's hard to think of yourselves as as a saviour otherwise.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

someone put him out of his misery. its cruel to force him to live like this. cruel to everyone else in the world at least

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd tell him to look at the flowers but he paved the rose garden.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The high cholesterol in Donny’s body needs to declare war on his heart and fail it.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

The cankles are the front line. It may take some time but I’m optimistic that gravity will win.

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[–] griff@lemmings.world 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Department of Death might sound even stronget

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Remember: 77,284,118 people in this country thought this fucking spray-tanned baboon was fit to lead.

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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are we supposed to know what he's talking about when he tweets that "The Dow is rising up after another successful meeting with Putin"? Is he talking about Dept. of War or Dow Jones?

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 19 points 1 day ago

And on the other side of his mouth he's saying he thinks he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Not relevant to trump, but: it is ironic that we (the US) haven't fought a genuinely defensive war since 1812, and we only managed a draw in that one (which included our capital being burned to the ground and our greatest victory coming after it was technically over) because our opponent was busy fighting a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys (and only winning because the fucking Germans helped out).

Edit: it's hard to imagine somebody using the expression "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" and being serious about it, but I guess some people can imagine that.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dumbass pedophile rapist.

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No wonder he's so offensive to all 5 senses.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

He's already offensive. Now he wants a whole government department to do it too

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Defense product >> WAR MACHINE

Military Contractor >> MERCENARY

Ambassador >> SPY MASTER

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ministry of Peace sounded too gay

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How does one still support a man child like this?

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

The answer is so simple, they're all fucking morons.

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[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Anytime this fool says anything, it sounds like I'm listening to a fucking toddler.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So mad that twat missed him and only grazed his ear

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taking us all the way back to the 40s with the War Department eh?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

America going back to its jingoistic roots I see.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You know, I always thought America’s first authoritarian leader would be more badass, more intimidating, sweats red white and blue and would be an evil genius. Instead, we’ve got this dumbass dying of cankles while he’s being propped up by a bunch of religious cowards.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

You drank too much Kool aid then. This is exactly what I expected it to be. America personified.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who gives a shit? It’s a more apt name for it so go ahead. Now where are those Epstein files?

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This is brilliant! His knowledge, eloquence and persuasiveness are remarkable.

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn bag of rotten oranges. To all yall told me I was overreacting to this piece of shit: I fucking told you!

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[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago

It'll sound a lot better to the average voter to defund the department of war than to defund the department of defense.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone wanna place bets on him introducing a Department of Truth and a Department of Love next?

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Literally exactly what a child would say.

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