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[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 254 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

"She seemed disappointed to learn there were sequels" got me, lol

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago

Wtf, I love AI now!

Though not quite in the same way as OOP.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Me when I finished Three Body Problem (I hated it).

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I was interested at the start and then it started, and continued, to go downhill for me. I kept going in spite of growing concern because I hoped they'd tie it up well in the end, but no. It may partially be cultural and I can also see some argument for artistic tragedy, but it just didn't work for me.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same here. I feel like an outlier!

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know why this happens to me but sci fi books that have "boring" characters like Raft by Stephen Baxter are books I actually really enjoy and find the character's to be realistic. Maybe I'm just a boring person irl

[–] zammy95@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Wow guess I'm the outlier? I couldn't put 3BP down, and then I got to the Dark Forest and loved it even more.

Deaths End fell apart terribly though.

It's not that I liked how he wrote, I'm not sure if it was the translation that caused this, but he did not seem like a good writer at all. But I was very intrigued by his plot and ideas.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That’s how I felt too. I was excited for deaths end, but I put it down about half way through and never got back to it.

[–] zammy95@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I finished it, and it just got progressively more and more scrambled. I guess is was diagnosed with cancer when writing it, and tried to cram as many of his ideas into this one novel as he could. And then it turned out it was a misdiagnosis or something? I can't remember exactly but. Yeah, definitely not the best work lol

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well now I feel bad for hating it!

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

That was me for the first book, and then I hoped the TV show would get me back into it but I quit that halfway through as well.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

History stuff : interesting but unnecessary violent (for me)

The rest: gibberish

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what language were you reading it in? i certainly noticed the English translators changed between the first and second book, and i am curious to know how it all reads in Chinese.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The first and the third books were translated by Ken Liu who is an amazing author and has gotten 4 Hugos himself. Don't know why they picked someone else for the second book.

[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

yeah, the change in voice was so disappointing to me, i didn't make it far in the second book.

sounds like i need to look into Liu's own work!

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve tried like 6 times to keep slogging through. I was convinced it would be great if I just got to the point where it started being great. Now I feel validated.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Uh oh. I've had it (the first one) sitting on my shelf for a few weeks but need to finish my current series first.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

First book only.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I couldn't even do that. Not could I finish the first season of the show.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 93 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This person has a very interesting relationship with their rep. I've never even met my congressmen personally.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Met mine once in Iraq. He gave us all medals that he was unauthorized to give, and the state Congress decided we shouldn't get them so, I have a memento of government stupidity in the form of something I'm unauthorized to wear.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds about right. Bet those Raytheon checks were authorized to cash, though.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Laundered valor.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I almost wish my rep was AI tbh. Might be less shitty.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like you are also from the south.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Nah just a conservative part of Canada (not quite as bad as the south yet, but if they had their way)

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

A lot of writers just write for themselves, and don't really think or care about what other people might think when they read it. That's perfectly fine, by the way. Writing can be a worthwhile effort even if nobody ever reads it.

But if you want other people to enjoy it, then you have to keep them in mind. And honestly, this sort of feedback should be invaluable to authors, assuming it's not an AI hallucination.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

LLMs are pretty shit at analysis, so the odds of this just being bullshit are high.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, I was surprised when they said it could summarize the plot and talk about the characters. To my knowledge, LLMs only memory is in how long their prompt is, so it shouldn't be able to analyze an entire novel. I'm guessing if an LLM could do something like this, it would only be because the plot was already summarized at the end of the novel.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I once asked ChatGPT for an opinion on my blog and gave the web address. It summarized some historical posts accurately enough. It was definitely making use of the content, and not just my prompt. Flattered me with saying "the author shows a curious mind". ChatGPT is good at flattery (in fact, it seems to be trained specifically to do it, and this is part of OpenAI's marketing strategy).

For the record, yes, this is a bit narcissistic, just like googling yourself. Except you do need to google yourself every once in a while to know what certain people, like employers, are going to see when they do it. Unfortunately, I think we're going to have to start doing the same with ChatGPT and other popular models. No, I don't like that, either.

[–] ruan@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 3 weeks ago

It was definitely making use of the content, and not just my prompt.

...

Ok, being simplistic about the actual workings: anything a LLM outputs is based only in the training data or the prompt, a LLM does not "create" anything.

I really doubt your blog is statistically significant enough represented in the training data, therefore I can only assume that yes, your blog post URL referenced was web scrapped by ChatGPT and, and any other URLs linked by this main URL that the scrapped deemed significant to the prompt, and all that text was in fact added to the full internal prompt that was processed by the actual LLM.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago

chatbots also usually have a database of key facts to query, and modern context windows can get very very long (with the right chatbot). but yeah the author probably imagined a lot of complexity and nuance and understanding that isn't there

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Summarizing is entirely different from analyzing though. It's a "skill" thats baked into LLMs, because that's how they manage all information. But any analysis would be based on a summary, which will lose a massive amount of resolution.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes but actually no. LLMs can be setup in such a way where they remember previous prompts; most if not all the AI web services do not enable this by default, if they even allow it as an option.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

LLMs can be setup in such a way where they remember previous prompts

All of that stuff is just added to their current prompt. That's how that function works.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"She listed three characters"

AI does everything in threes. Likely it just decided to not like three characters not because three characters were bad but because it always does three bullets.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

It didn't "decide" to "not like" anything. It can't do either.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

assuming it’s not an AI hallucination.

All output from an LLM is a "hallucination". That's the core function of the algorithm.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was a computer scientist at a time when early generative AI work refered to output as the model "dreaming". Makes it sound kind of sweet. It was viewed as kind of kooky to run pattern recognition models forward...

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You reckon they used AI for assistance while writing too?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“While she was reading it”? Like, as if it takes a computer long enough to read something that it will stop for a break and comment to others?

These people are weird.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

i'm assuming there's some character limit on that AI chat and the guy had to copy pase in parts

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

lol they can’t even enthuse an AI