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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The weirdly comforting thing here is that more than half of the wealth is still in the bottom 99%. That means the masses still have economic power. The problem, of course, is that they cannot deploy it with the same coordination as the smaller group.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago

Those last 9 percent might be hard to convince since they're already doing quite well.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think it's comforting at all.

If you remove the top 1%, the remaining wealth is concentrated in the top 10%. This group of people is highly invested in the status quo; their wealth and power is usually used to prop up the current system.

These people are reffered to by many names: petit bourgeoisie, professional managerial class, small business tyrants, etc.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

don't forget oligarchs

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

It's almost doubly comforting to that 10% though, right?

How much land does this top 10% need? 🤔

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Power that can't be deployed is by definition not power at all though, right?

Odd observation

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but "the masses" are able to deploy concerted power, like in the instance of the harm done to Tesla sales lately. It's just more difficult to coordinate it.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh good, our dollars can go to another massive corporation that will do the exact same thing. Sometimes choice really isn't choice at all.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Eh. If you're just not buying any new car, you've already paid off the one you have, then that is a choice - and no corporation is getting any more money from you as a result of it. But I feel the pain of what you're saying. The case you're describing really rears its head for things like groceries where you actually do need to just keep buying them forever, and you may not have a farmer's market around. But I think people could truly cut down on their car consumption a lot. Some Americans are getting new cars every three years or so.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Totally agree, I have never purchased a new car and probably never will. We try to car pool whenever possible as well. If public transportation was better I would consider using it more often.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

These are federal statistics. I wouldn't trust those, especially not since Trump tries his best to skim and remove anything he doesn't like.

The reality is way worse. The 1% holds far more than the graph shows.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

How many people are in each category?

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 24 points 12 hours ago

Curren population is 347.533.640

99.9 => 347.533 people

99 - 99.9 => 3.127.802 people

99 - 90 => 31.625.562 people

99 - 50 => 142.141.258 people

50 - 0 => 173.766.820 people

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Multiply the population by the percentage? (I didn't find anything on that page suggesting that it wouldn't be the case.)

342 million * 0.5 = 171 million people who are in the bottom yellow line. The top darker green line is 342 million * 0.001 = 342 thousand people

I think you can do the others yourself if you like.

[–] Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 12 hours ago

Around 350M Americans, so the bottom 50% is about 175M, next 49%'s about the same, top 1% is 3.5M, top 0.1% is 350K people.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

Capitalism working as intended. But it's not finished yet. Get back to work peasants.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The bottom 99% own 66% of the economy. That would be enough to control it.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 35 minutes ago

How is wealth defined? If debt is included then a lot of people are below zero even with good incomes.