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[–] hexagon527@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but where were they on J6 huh

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

Probably in high school as they're young boots.

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All these people they keep photographing look quite displeased.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not displeased enough to not be there.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

So you expect them to trash their career? This isn't a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.

They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.

[–] monsieur_hackerman@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago

Imagine being under 40 and thinking you'll be allowed to retire....

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it's illegal but not that illegal, oh now it's illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don't do it, oh now I'm too deep, fast forward two years and you're torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get all that. I agree. All I'm saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we'll see how that plays when time's up.

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[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

While you're right, it is also the national guard so it's a supplemental/part-time job and not the primary job for a lot of them.

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[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you expect them to trash their career?

Yes.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

no, I guess it's too much to ask of the National Guard to guard the nation

land of the free, home of the brave lol...

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yet. Let's see what they do when their orders do violate the constitution.

A buck says 99.9% of them will still be okay with it.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That's something trump and his people have never understood.

They expect 100% loyalty, but treat the troops like actual shit. And this isn't gonna be a temporary thing, he's pulling NG from the reddest states because he expects them to be most likely to obey, but it's just pissing them off.

He should have spent the next two years spoiling the shit out them. Bonuses out the ass, lots of long paid optional training so they can bank money. Give them all the newest toys and gear.

Build up that loyalty and then bring them in next 1/6 when you're going to pull some shit.

It's really not that hard to figure this stuff out, the only saving grace is they're comically inept

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

If you want some fascist stormtroopers then just pulling the NG won't get you that. But that's what they're trying to groom ice into.

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[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“I just joined for the free college and cheap health insurance but now they got me defending a facist regime”

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

That's probably not far off from their cadences 😂. "I joined up to get college for free. Now they got me in a fascist regime." That flows a bit better IMO.

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why does this seem like step one in Trump's 'I'm not leaving at the end of my term' plan?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because he incited an insurrection the last time he didn't want to leave at the end of his term. There's no way he'll give it up this time.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Don't forget the false slates

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[–] A_cook_not_a_chef@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the "just following orders" excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.

[–] A_cook_not_a_chef@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

That's exactly why I posted that.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only 177 people were judged in the Nuremberg trials, though. Barely a few dozens executed.

Vast majority of soldiers and civilians that were "just following orders" were indeed not condemned by their actions. At least not by any judge.

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[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think that’s unfair. Imagine being an impoverished American and one of your only options to afford a college education and healthcare is to join the National Guard, an organization that is rarely activated, and when they are, it’s often to actually help people during things like natural disasters. So you join, you take advantage of the benefits and can actually afford to start a family.

Then all of the sudden, you’re stuck in this situation. Leaving will get you a dishonorable discharge, stripping you and your family of healthcare. Getting another job will be difficult. Or you can just clench your teeth and maliciously comply by waffling on your responsibilities

[–] A_cook_not_a_chef@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I think it's unfair to have troops deployed in Washington DC. They took a gamble by joining and I can empathize with that. But them complying is furthering the fascist agenda.

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Looks like North-Korea....

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Literally twiddling their thumbs while fully dressed out in combat fatigues wasting our tax dollars by the minute. When the fuck will they turn on their handlers and stage a proper coup?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Indeed, but those soldiers are losing too. Their civilian incomes are usually higher than the poverty wages the US military provides. I would be pissed if given those orders.

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[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Smile, you on camera just following orders.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I hope breaking your oath was worth it. I'm ashamed to see the uniform I once wore now.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What oath? They're literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it's above board for now.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

it's above board for now

Can't wait to continue hearing this while we all board the trains.

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[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 2 months ago

This deployment was legal for up to 30 days. They can only refuse illegal orders

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

They swore to uphold the Constitution. So far their orders are within the law.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

That looks hella dystopian

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Are we sure that's D.C.? Looks like the Pentagon (which is across the river in Virginia).

[–] tacuache@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Its Union Station in DC. I'm sure. Source: I live here.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is it like on a day to day basis? Do you see the presence every where you go? Are people talking about it?

[–] tacuache@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Its pretty bad. Its like an ominous cloud over the city. You don't get to see them everywhere but they're pretty common. The presence of the national guard is meant to be a show of force, so they are located in prominent and visible places.

However, the National Guard has mostly kept to the sidelines. I'm more concerned about ICE, Park Police and other federal law enforcement running rampant in unmarked cars, wearing masks, and trying to make themselves unaccountable.

People in DC are definitely talking about it. Many folks elsewhere are dissapointingly quiet

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! It was really bugging me that I couldn't place it from that photo, it looks like a dozen different places around d.c./nova from that angle. The only thing that didn't seem right to me was the roof.

[–] tacuache@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I guess it's just the angle, but that's definitely taken on Columbus circle looking west

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[–] Deathgl0be@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Traitors and also shows when we have storm disasters and need help it was wasted on this.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Hey at least they're not cybertrucks 🥴

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

It's a nice shot regardless of the implications.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
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