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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It is my duty to remind everyone, whenever HP is mentioned, that they create biometric apartheid systems for rogue terrorist states

[–] Downpour@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well that sounds downright diabolical. Can you link a source to read about it more?

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure thing! As one of the global targets of the BDS movement, there’s plenty of resources for reading up on their categorically evil activities:

https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/186-20240719-sum-01-00-en.pdf

https://investigate.afsc.org/company/hp

https://www.whoprofits.org/companies/company/3774?hewlett-packard-enterprise-hpe

And here’s a simplified rundown:

https://bdsmovement.net/boycott-hp

[–] Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago

Hi! I want to be better informed, and looking at the link investigate.afsc it says

As far as we know, HP Inc is no longer involved in these activities.

I think when people refer to HP (HPQ) they think of 'Hewlett Packard', and therefore take the name to also mean Hewlett Packard Enterprise ("HPE") but those appear to be two different things.

What I can summize is that HP build the teck prior to the split, which is now used by EntServ and DXC not part of HP. HP built a R&D center

It looks like the company continuously split and sold parts of it to get away from that legacy. By not demonstrating how they are not involved this shows a level of complicity.

If we start to look at the people in the companies, this will start to paint a different picture - Antonio Neri who is the President and CEO of HPE has been with HP since 1995. In 1997 he was 'global director of HP's imaging and printing services division'. In 2004 the company's 'PC services business', then began 'heading the technology services business' in 2011. I wonder how he personally was involved in the things HP did during his time in these roles.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Not OP, but I found this for a quick summary, and this more detailed paper from Privacy International here.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm boycotting HP but it is interesting to see the industry shift. Windows is losing its moat now that less stuff is utterly dependent on it

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It doesn’t help that they are actively and aggressively pushing their users away with shitty features no one asked for and operating system breaking bugs that shouldn’t even exist.

They are shooting themselves in the foot for their epic quest for enshitification.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Also they suck. Like, in general.

[–] abrahambelch@programming.dev 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HP is a struggle (but yeah, Windows is too)

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I couldn't decide which one to avoid harder. I'll go with both.

[–] Dolphinfreetuna@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Two negatives make a positive

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Absolutely fuck HP in every single way.

Everything they make is a gigantic turd. Get the fuck away from my games thanks.

Steam deck will always be king.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But at the same time I will use them as a stepping stone for better Linux adoption.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I will not use HP because I don’t like supporting terrorists

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Oh, I'm not buying them personally, they're dog shit, but if others do, I'll reap any benefits.

[–] quokka@aussie.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

Ferrari are terrorists?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HP isn't bad in some areas

The problem is it is hard to know the difference between good and bad.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

HP supports terrorist organizations. No. The entire company is bad and should be disassembled.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That's bad

But so is every other tech company out there really. Not to say that that we should ignore it but at the end of the day the scale of the problem is much bigger than HP. If I started not buying from companies with some sort of questionable history I wouldn't have anything to buy.

HP is a big company that's getting into Linux. I think that's good in general.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I hear you. I am mostly still salty about their printers so fuck them. But anything to boost Linux is a plus

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago

It uses proprietary, disposable, non-rechargeable batteries with drm built in. $60 for 4 hours playtime.

/s?

[–] Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Thank you. 😄

Oh, I desperately want to see their spin on Free and Open-Subscription Software.

[–] quokka@aussie.zone 10 points 17 hours ago

It'll need a 1.5GB "drivers" download every week, a subscription to just keep running, forget all its network settings monthly, need an "app" to set it up, and if you don't play a game they like it'll just brick itself?

[–] AGD4@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

I reckon/hope HP was also soured with the deprecation of Windows Mixed Reality, effectively bricking the HP Reverb G2.

That is a shit show on its own.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 5 points 23 hours ago

goosebumps on that headline

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

One by one they turn on windows.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Where are the mainstream gaming laptops/desktops with SteamOS preinstalled? HP might be the first one to do that I think.