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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Let's run the country like a business!" Also, "let's cut our revenue by the most ever seen in history".

Our debt is going up! (surprised Pikachu face)

This is the liberals fault!

No business owner would voluntary cut their revenue. They're not businessmen, they're con artists turned tyrants.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

all he ever known is laundering russians for thier money, through his casinos, using investors money than bankrupting to avoid any lawsuits against himselfs, or drown the opposition(the sue-r in so much shit) they cant fight them anymore.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (4 children)

i thought we were going to doge that bullet

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The secret is Trump will debase our currency to the point where a hotdog stand charges a million dollars for a can of soda. Then our debt will be relatively meaningless and easy to pay off.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I really hate that so much in US politics right now reminds me of 1930's Germany

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

it also originated in america too. before nazi was the kkk, and the nazis used our segregation laws to implement thier own.

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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 56 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously?

What idiot thought it would take a trillion years for the US to rack up $37 in debt?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

lmao

Came in to make the same stupid joke. Love to see I've been beaten to it.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 53 points 1 day ago

What happens when someone uses an entire country as collateral while stuffing their own pockets. Watch it happen, now!

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Classic republicans spending way too much. To them conservative = spend and waste more.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a world in which the US is carrying $37T, everyone lives in a spacious public condo, rides the UltraMax train around town to their 30 hour/week jobs or publicly financed doctor's appointments or state financed university classes or luxury public park and spa.

And I think that would be money well spent.

Shame we don't live in that country

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Sure, basically all available economic data suggests that society would become far more productive and stable if the neediest people were given enough stability to develop into contributing members of society, but if I don't see people I don't like suffering terribly then I will feel there is no right and wrong in the world and I might as well go have sex with a child like we all secretly want to." - social conservatives (actually)

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[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 day ago

Who thought it would take a trillion years for the debt to reach $37?

[–] s@piefed.world 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Solution: sacrifice the richest people until their wealth adds up to $37 trillion and maybe a few more rich people just for extra security

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trump will be the first president under which a sovereign default will occur

[–] lostlittletimeonthis@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

History repeats itself indeed, it's sounding more and more like the pre revolution France, a tone deaf dictator, cooking the books because the numbers weren't so good, the poor suffering more and more etc etc

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

*guillotine sharpening intensifies

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[–] Stimpy@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US debt reaches $37, a trillion years before expected. FIFY

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[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for the inevitable response executive order: "Nuh uh - Donald J Trump"

(And then all the Republicans clapped)

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 30 points 1 day ago

"Biiiiiiiiiiden's economy!?!"

"Hey... I found a dollar in the seat cushions!"

"TRUMP'S ECONOMY! TRUMP'S ECONOMYYY!!!"

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope foreign nations blacklist the American elite from migrating to their shores and owning anything in their territories. The wealthy are parasites that inevitably kill the host.

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[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 25 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I don’t know who was expecting it to take a trillion years, you can go 37$ in debt at the Taco Bell drive through

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So what happens when the US defaults? Just asking for those that are curious to see where this slowmotion trainwreck is heading

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Debt doesn't matter, especially in the usa.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

They aren't actually borrowing from anybody, the debt is to themselves. It basically just means the US Federal Government spends more than it collects every year since POTUS Clinton was in charge.

They do set an upper limit to the debt / annual deficit and if they fail to resolve it by raising the limit then the federal government goes into shutdown: no new laws passed, no federal employees get paid, etc. But they pretty much always raise the limit. The last time the limit was raised it was a bipartisan push to keep the government running, during which the DNC members who joined with the Republicans received a lot of criticism for doing what the Republicans wanted, but TBH I don't really think things would have been much better off if the government had shut down again.

Next time, though, it's become clear that the Senate will keep stripping rights and not allow a single bit of progress to be made no matter how far into fascism this nation falls, so definitely should shut down.

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[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I still waiting for the damn “trickle down economics“ that Reagan PROMISED!

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 12 points 15 hours ago

It was ruled in court to be illegal in 1919 in the Dodge vs Ford lawsuit.

At the time, Ford himself wanted to: "My ambition is to employ still more men, to spread the benefits of this industrial system to the greatest possible number, to help them build up their lives and their homes. To do this we are putting the greatest share of our profits back in the business."

But shareholders (both Dodge brothers of the Dodge car company) sued against this and in the end the judge declared that: "A business corporation is organized and carried on primarily for the profit of the stockholders. The powers of the directors are to be employed for that end. The discretion of directors is to be exercised in the choice of means to attain that end and does not extend to a change in the end itself, to the reduction of profits or to the nondistribution of profits among stockholders in order to devote them to other purposes."

Basically, if you attempted trickle down economics, you'd be "stealing" from the shareholders. Extra money is to be given to shareholders as dividends, not for boosting the pay of your employees if it doesn't involve adding more profits to the bottom line.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 10 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

If America paid attention to its own history Reagan would be remembered as the worst president

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[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

“Conservative” fiscal “responsibility”

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's what a conman as leader of your country will get you. Fired half the government workforce, still spent more money than the last guy and he's only been in office for 6 months. It only goes down from here folks, hope you enjoyed the ride. This is your last stop.

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[–] rauls5@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This title could really use a comma.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US debt reaches $37, trillion years before expected.

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[–] npdean@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Does anyone have data about how much additional debt has been piled since Trump started second term?

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But how could that be possible? He's a master businessman!

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

Well, things like that happen when you throw money at billionaires instead of collecting taxes from them.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WE'RE NUMBER ONE! (...in debt).

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

literally meaningless to me. i couldn’t care less. money is fake and nobody is ever going to do shit about the debt. who? tell me who is going to do what and without any devastating worldwide consequence?

we can owe $6 quintillion and it won’t mean shit we will print and print and borrow and borrow and so will every other country.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a modern day religion .... it's a faith based system

It works and functions and is all powerful because enough people believe in it and hold all their faith in it ... it's faith and belief that make it work

But it's also the Achilles heel of the whole system ..... if enough people in the whole system stop believing in it ... it all collapses in on itself and it is destroyed and evaporates instantly.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This analogy is very apt. I stopped giving money (and wealth in general) power over my emotional state. I only care about making rent and many of my recent luxuries are buying independent art like games and music as well as local shops.

Turns out, if you stop wanting all the time, you also stop consuming.

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[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Having large debt matters for how expensive access to cash is. No matter how "fake" it is, the financial system puts a premium on how long it takes to get their lent money back. The longer it's stuck, the worse the reputation of getting it back, or simply the higher the demand — the higher the premium.

And as you need cash to make payments for goods and services (as opposed to tax rebates) that has the effect that US tax dollars and investments have lower rate of return as sufficient cash gets more expensive.

Another part is that the debt will be taken out in some form, e.g. foreign currency, making that currency more available for cash transactions (while at the same time making yours' less available due to being locked into what you needed it for). This shifts trade away from USD, which makes it much harder to influence/control what it's used for, how much it's worth, and harder to make people care how much of it there is.

As the world trades in something besides USD and/or avoids investing in the US due to high costs/volatility, the US gets less relevant/influential in global policy, diplomacy, business, investments and even domestic policy.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's possible that other countries might start calling us on the debt, if we borrow faster than we lend, or faster than inflation.

Countries don't have credit ratings in the same way Americans do, but they still have ratings on their bonds. If those ratings get downgraded, people stop lending us money, and then everything crashes and burns.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Our ratings HAVE been downgraded, and it's only going to get worse

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most of our debt is domestically owned, though.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 18 hours ago

Fucking Democracts not paying the debt down.

  • Republicans
[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The euro, pound, and Swiss franc are each worth more than a US dollar.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 8 points 1 day ago

Best debt EVER!!!

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

the title from Newsweek is so poorly written

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Buy gold, the U.S. dollar isn't going to be worth the paper it's printed on in a few years time.

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