I like the historically accurate implication that the MLs set the anarchists on fire.
this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2025
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Sets the Anarchists on fire
How could the liberals do this?!?
Kills forms of leftisim that don't agree with them
We're the only kind of Marxism that ever succeeded!!!
Dont they consider them liberals? They would be saying it infighting between the fascists
Do ML’s consider anarchists to be liberals? I’d imagine some of them do, probably. I think it’d depend on who you ask
I get called a lib all the time because I’ve got a problem with secret police and purges
Yeah I’ve caught the same accusation before for more or less the same
Its an exaggeration
There have been comments from hexbear/lemmygrad/lemmy.ml users that say that though
Oh yeah, over there they’re definitely in the “everyone I disagree with is a shitlib” boat
I appreciate that the anarchists are canonically the fire. Warms my little heart.
I'm happy that they caught the Marxists on fire.
Same. I feel seen.
I misread it as “national socialist” and wondered where the hell you found nazis. I actively search for them and I’ve only found like 10 in two years.
Feels like maybe you were expecting argument, but we're all pleased
We need to pursue a society in which everyone has equal access to rights and resources, where no one has to worry about food or shelter from the elements, or whether their family will be ripped away from them due to circumstances. Where no-one is given exception, even when they are deeply in debt or committed heinous crimes, or are the most deviant of sexual perverts. We can include them and address the issues as well.
A society in which everyone has exactly the same amount of political power may not be possible but we can get closer to this than we are now. This is what that more perfect union bit is about.
We need to less follow ideologies which operate more like divine command theory as dicta or creeds, and more see societal models as exactly that: models. We know democracy on its own needs to be fine tuned. We know capitalism works only when well regulated and upper management isn't allowed to behave irresponsibly. We know command economics requires a lot of deliberation and the willingness to listen to and address gripes from the public. The end goal is still the same: Everyone eats. Everyone is warm. Everyone is welcome.
This is my mission statement.
Cool. Now do it.
It's a long process, especially since people who have a lot of power really, really, really want to keep it.
For now the process is getting people on the same page. Or as a certain poet put it:
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be one
I wouldn’t hold my breath.
For example, I already don’t like you for quoting Jon Lennon
I wouldn't hold my breath either.
Human society continues to careen towards multiple great filters it is ill-prepared to navigate, and the trillion-dollar propaganda machine that got Trump elected works. We just may not be evolved to cooperate at the level that gets us to community-based governments without monied interests interfering.
Mark Twain invested his money into the Paige Compositor, an automated mechanical typesetter, which had over a thousand moving parts in an era that lacked the capacity for precision molding. Babbage constructed the difference engine 2 which worked like a charm when built by students a century later, but he was defunded at the wrong time.
Sometimes we're just not ready for good ideas, and not capable of implementing them at the time they are discovered.
Change is hard, change is ugly, change is necessary.
that one liberal
As a democratic socialist I think I am more annoyed by neolibs than the Fascists. I wish the Fascists were gone more, but the neolibs found a way to be more insufferable.
Fascists largely seem to know they're selfish, hateful pricks and take a perverse pride in it. Note the shit eating grins and lazy circular arguments meant to provoke more than defend.
Liberals want to have their cake and eat it too. They have no problem with mass homelessness so long as it's not in their backyard, and they like record profits even when it involves legal murder of customers, but they blow a microchip when informed that means they work against society and are also selfish fucks who want there to be winners and losers instead of everyone having full bellies. You cant be for mass homelessness, for basic needs not being met by some while others have too much and be a decent person.
At least the Devil is the Devil and not perpetually trying to find the new middle ground of greed and power and asking to be called a good boy or girl for it. I prefer sociopaths that announce themselves.
Source of your exasperation please?
Grass as in the grassy Knoll?