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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 207 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it's important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn't a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn't a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As someone watching from out side, no shit. The us has crossed the Rubicon a while ago, no longer a nation based on laws, no longer a place that people have rights, no longer a place with free elections (well this one has been around for a bit with the stupid 2 party system) and no longer a place other nations want to do business with.

The most infuriating part of this has been watching americans (and more of the rest of the world then I would have liked) act like this is all potentially bad and then normalizing just flat out dystopian shit. Like shit this is not even the first place troops have been deployed to put down political "wrong speak".

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[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

thanks man, finally someone else saying it!

We’ve been chasing the dragon since 2016: This is gonna bring him down, that is gonna bring him down, oh no but wait, this is definitely going to finish him off. How is the Epstein story ever going to harm him in any way?

In reality those things are the distractions from the real shit that’s been happening. Now that he’s accelerating his fascist actions in plain sight, how dare anyone say it’s just a distraction? This narrative only works in his favour, jfc.

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[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 129 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Martial law is next! I tell ya.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 97 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is damn near the same thing, without all the fancy steps.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 59 points 3 days ago (21 children)

Those "fancy steps" are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he's doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he's breaking the law.

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Surely this time he’s done for.

Hate to break it to you man but the law does not matter. It really never has for the rich and powerful but he has laid it all bare

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've said time and time again we let the entire Bush admin off the hook for war crimes... Trump hasn't even hit war crimes levels yet. Did anyone think we were ever going to hold him to account when we wouldn't even do anything about that?

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think it started sooner, with Nixon being pardoned and all the senior Reagan White House officials getting away with Iran-Contra

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Even farther back. The mishandling of Reconstruction of the South after Lincoln's assassination.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The law does matter. People don't seem to realize just how much of Trump's bullshit has already been stopped by the courts.

The majority of his executive orders have all been blocked or straight-up nullified, so far...but thanks to the overwhelming volume of court cases and the long delays in reaching some decisions...the media never covers the outcomes to the same extent.

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

Buddy if the law mattered even one fucking iota trump himself would be buried under the prison.

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 14 points 3 days ago

whenever an EO gets challenged or struck down, Trump figures out a way to get rid of the problem or go around it. the only thing the law is doing is showing him vulnerabilities to exploit. state injunctions are legally being ignored thanks to SCOTUS, so.. Trump does not have to listen to judges.

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[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (24 children)

He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FYI - He tried this in Portland last time:

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland

Bonus: The guy in charge of it, Chad Wolf (not making that up) had been illegally appointed and had no authority:

https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/dont-shoot-portland-v-wolf/

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 89 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How quickly people forgot that unmarked vans with unmarked personnel were kidnapping people off the streets of Portland during BLM

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Helicopters have been flying low over Houston every couple hours all through the day for the last week.

I hope y'all liked our hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen, cause it's coming home

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files

We changed people saying "Trump fucked kids" to "Trump rapes kids" in just a few days.

Phrasing matters, and it especially matters to him. Once we call it the Trump/Epstein files, news orgs will too.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"Trump floats the idea of starting a civil war." FTFY.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 43 points 2 days ago (8 children)

He's getting everything prepared for when he denies the next election. He doesn't want to lose power to a pesky thing called democracy.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's way more than that. We're only 7 months in. This is complete power grab, complete takeover. Democracy will only barely matter by 2026. And there will be no loss to deny.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Getting the military in place for the coup.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (26 children)

but but but guys, Kamala Harris had a weird laugh….

/s

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Dumbfuck really wants a ground war.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

WTF is in those files???

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The most free country on the planet is now the most fascist.

Way to go America, yer fuckin’ winning.

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are they Democrat cities by any chance? I assume he won’t also deploy them to Republican cities?

[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

One thing that the mayors of all of those cities have in common is that they are Democrats. One thing. There is another.

Muriel Bowser

Eric Adams

Brandon Johnson

Karen Bass

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

That is indeed the other thing.

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[–] MechanicalJester@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Short answer: good luck with that. Deployable up to 100K. Total population you're trying to control is 15 million. So 1 per 150 citizens.

Except it obviously would quickly need to include the Bay Area, St Louis, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle etc

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (10 children)
[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Suspension of the constitution and President Trump for life.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even worse because when he dies we’re stuck with a techno facist dictatorship for the foreseeable future

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

Trump rapes little kids.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How did an allegedly civilized country allow one of the worst people imaginable to become their leader?

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yo, try that shit with NYC and see what happens. The city is a breath away from mass protest on a GOOD day.

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