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[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (24 children)

Aren't you afraid other countries will treat you the way Americans are treating others? Why not stay and fix your goddamn country.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 8 points 5 days ago

The USians leaving are the ones who didn’t vote for fascism and at least speaking for myself, are learning the language and culture of the place they are going to. I appreciate you not wanting a USian immigrant crisis, but I hope you can welcome those of us who make it over AND who treat the locals with respect. 🥺

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We don't know how. We were told all our lives that voting was the fix, but that system is broken now.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

I believe you call it the "second amendment." We've been hearing about how America needw school shootings cause of it for decades.

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Me when Jews fled Germany. Me when people flee South America. Me when people flee war torn countries. If people (who didn't vote for this) can leave, I hope they do. It hasn't been our country in a long time. Individuals deserve the liberties guaranteed to them by the constitution and if they can no longer find that here and are able to find it elsewhere, they should. There is not enough will here to change things. Throwing yourself at the wall of fascism is a great way to die needlessly. No one should be obligated to die because of the failings of the government they happen to live under. If we had the numbers and could do something, maybe I'd understand your perspective, but we don't have the numbers, and we live in a surveillance state the likes of which history does not have an analogue for. Our government has cameras everywhere and is able to track our every conversation. People here believe this is the will of god. There's no quick fix for that and I don't think people that will be actively hunted down in the meantime have any obligation to stay.

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[–] imetators@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Do people live without a passport? Cause I dunno, maybe it is how my family ran things in my childhood but everyone of us had a passport as a must. (I'm from a lesser known EU country)

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

It’s fairly common in the USA to not have a passport

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

to get on a boat, that I may or may not need to own, and sail away from here.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have one but it's been very difficult for me to just sell a bunch of things and get up and go somewhere without any security when I get there.

I speak English und ich lerne ein bisschen Deutsch aber ich spreche nicht gut. I don't think there exists a place where I knew I could prosper and not worry about being forced to leave within a year or two.

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

"They're not sending their best."

It's your presidents words by the way.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The USA is but its a pretty low bar. Tons of academics are leaving the country.

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