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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 133 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Detained, questioned, and released. Big whoop.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They at least know that they can't flaunt their crimes too brazenly.

They also must know that they have little respect around Europe now.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 11 points 19 hours ago

Steps forward. Focus on the positive

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Do you believe in imprisoning people indefinitely without proof of crimes? Has Israel committed crimes, yes. Have these individuals? We don't know. Unless they had proof of those individuals doing wrong I would see it as abduction. Fuck the IDF, but if you toss out habeus corpus as fast as Trump wanted too, it won't help the people, it will just harm everyone.

[–] Dholi@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Every other organization in the world that bombs, rapes, and shoots children in the head get designated as a terrorist organization. But, the IDF gets a HUGE pass because Zionists seem to have great influence over the Western world.

The least the world can do is designate the IDF a terrorist organization.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I agree they should, but a lot of propaganda went into making them out to be only acting in self defense. And decades of anti-middle eastern populous' propoganda made that easy to do.

It's nice that some groups are slowly realizing, but it's also likely far to little, way to late. Hopefully many of them will be saved though

[–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Detaining suspects are not abduction mate

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Holding someone without evidence is. You can't detain someone indefinitely until you find proof of what you think they may have done. That's called abduction. Which is why most places have a set 8 hour hold time before you have to press charges or release them.

[–] guy@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sweden abducts a lot of people than. Actually, we've got criticism for our rules regarding detaining people

Then by all means by Sweedens laws Texas should arrest all of the Democrat congressmembers who left the state and tell them next year why they were arrested after forcing their replacements to sign by threatening to arrest anyone who won't show up and allow their vote.

Doesn't seem like freedom though, seems like abduction

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until they are held, tried, and convicted nothing has changed.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

They may or may not be hung, but they should be hanged.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago

Not a "turning point" so much as a passenger grabbed the wheel and the driver had to adjust.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 17 points 13 hours ago

Someone with an IDF T-shirt and hat walked past a pub I was in yesterday and one of the staffers shouted "Try that in Belgium, ya scum."

Now that makes better sense.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bob Vyland says something, gets villainized. Belgium does something, gets lionized. Why are politicians not seeing Israel as a third rail to their career?

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I believe that there will be a tipping point with politicians soon. there are Zionist lobby groups, but if you can't get elected on that platform, or pro Gaza politicians start to be seen as less corrupt then things will change very quickly.

Israel is essentially a pariah state at the moment.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont get why people find it so hard to make the clear distinction between being jewish and zionist. Its not hard, its like German and nazi, American and MAGA, English and chav. We've heard the zionists speaking about the civilians in Gaza in dehumanising terms. "They are animals" etc. Thats classic nazi shit.

But for whatever reason, we still get all those clowns in various governments supporting this shit. How many pictures of starving kids to people need to see before ask the question "Are we the baddies?"?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

its like German and nazi

Well, in Germany the descendants of the Nazis are happy to conflate the two and attack Jews, including descendants of Holocaust victims when they take a stance against Zionism in public.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So does the fact that some Germans are assholes give you licence to hate all Germans? Cos thats what we are talking about here.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

I am German. I know these people well. Like any people there is good and bad among them. Unfortunately the bad ones are gaining more and more influence. And some of these are using their overly expressive love for Zionism as a "proof" that they aren't Nazis anymore. In that act they are repeating some of the things the Nazis did.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

The problem is that they released them after interrogation. When authorities in (I think it was) Brazil did the same, the soldiers were quickly brought out of the country, probably by the Mossad.

I don't expect that justice will be served in this case.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This wasn’t like on the ground, in the moment? They were investigating these guys for ten months and all they did was question them and release them?

[–] ammonium@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

The Belgian government didn't investigate for months. An NGO fighting against human rights violations in Palestine did track them on social media, saw they were at Tomorrowland in Belgium and filed a complaint. Only then the government acted by questioning the soldiers.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today 9 points 19 hours ago

Too little, too late. All this seems just like a fake show done to calm the public down and show that they care about what people think. All this happens in the background of continued monetary support to Israel.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago

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