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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"This isn't a mud pit. It's an operating table, and I'm the surgeon..."

It's hard to overstate just how fucking good Dark Knight Returns is.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And then DKR2 & 3 happened.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Frank Miller is not a great writer unfortunately. It was lightning in a bottle for DKR, The 300 (though the movie did it more justice) and arguably Sin City (similar to the 300), but not much else landed well for him.

He was always more of an edgy artist than a story writer imo.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Pretty sure Batman has a big ass AI computer in his bat cave

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love how this entire post is discussing batman and not AI.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Well, Batman's the superhero in the comic. Al is just his butler.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

AI. Alfred Intelligence

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he isn't using it to fill social media with slop.

plus, "AI" isn't inherently evil, like ai models to fold proteins. but soulless generative AI models like diffusion models or LLMs, are practically useless and only make shitty outputs which only make slop.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I've taken to calling the latter commercial AI. It's always some centralised service that is desperate to get to the vendor lock-in stage of enshittification, so they can start building the backdoor for advertisers, then start turning up the heat on customers, bit by bit.

Mark my words, the advertising you'll see from commercial AI is going to be some of the slimiest, sneakiest, boundary-pushing, gas-lightning slop you have ever seen.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He says this after literally using a gun earlier, though. In the moment it was necessary to save lives, but Bruce absolutely used guns.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Has he ever used them as weapons though, or just tools?

As in; has he ever actually shot a person, or just shot objects like locks and engines?

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Batman from Earth 2 shot Mad Monk when they turned into a werewolf with a silver bullet that killed him, that's the only GUN "death" I'm aware of. But earth 2 Batman doesn't have a restriction on guns like prime Batman does.

He's killed way more people than that though.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

he shot yellow flash in the head as well, because apparantly bullets are faster? lol.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

He shot Darkseid, too.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 days ago

Easy for mr big bucks over there to say

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Got mogged by 725 dragon's breath on Shipment one too many times.

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Batman secretly fought in WW1 on the German side.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

I just want to say that i support this message. This meme conveys my opinion so well that i cant even add to it.

[–] aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I remember reading a batman comic that presented as a very out of place PSA for landmines in which batman picked up an AK and said something like "I hate guns but landmines are worse" and shot up all the landmines.

Anyway thanks to that comic I know to never venture off trail or I might get blown up. I live in the US btw.

Not sure if batman's reach extended overseas when this was published.

[–] dragoness@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

thanks, i didn't know that. glad you're not around landmines anymore💜

no one tell Batman that all the kids are playing "mine"craft.

[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's why it's a huge, existential threat and may doom us all.

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is not. It's a shpiele that LLM companies push to make it appear more powerful than it actually is.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

If you think the perceived threat of these things is some kind of super-AI that takes over the world, you have fallen for the spiel also, which is a huge distraction from the real threat, which is how it replaces search-engines and fact-checking and user research on any topic entirely and is addictive and growing in popularity and can be used by their manufacturers to push narratives and propaganda with an effectiveness we've never imagined.

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[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Liking "AI" is kind of a modern day equivalent of liking gas-guzzling, enormous pickup trucks. Sure, it takes you from point A to point B and can tow shit, but there are many more human-friendlier alternatives that does not make you look like a giant douche.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It takes less power to run my local model than it does to play Baldur's Gate 3, but I haven't seen anybody shaming people for playing games. Not every LLM is a giant wasteful cloud provider, many are open source and self hosted.

It's kind of like saying all vehicles are gas guzzling enormous pickup trucks and therefore nobody should travel anywhere. Self hosting on a PC you already own is more like riding a bike in this metaphor.

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Show me the percentage of AI prompts done on local models, and if it's more than a rounding error, I'll eat my hat.

Also, was your local model trained locally?

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What percentage of trips are done on a bicycle?

I'm working on software to help more people do it, but I fear that anti-ai sentiment has lost focus on the problem. Local models are super useful for assistance with code, writing, and all sorts of general tasks. I've been working on a tool that allows you to tell the computer what you want and it generates a command line prompt with an explanation of how it works.

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Going back to my analogy, it doesn't matter what you do with your special case of LLM tech. What matters is that most are using it in a destructive way. People do not care if you use your massive pick-up truck to cure cancer. People see a dumb pick-up truck, they assume you voted for Trump. So I'm pretty sure my analogy stands.

And the answer for the training question is a "No", I presume.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I agree, but I think it does matter where we go from here. We could say all vehicles are bad, or we could focus on the source of the problem. Corporate AI is what's using all the electricity and water, it's what's creating the worst issues.

Most open source models don't need additional training, they're already plenty good for most plain language tasks and the weights are all free to use. Why would I waste power doing my own training when the public options are perfectly adequate?

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you know how much energy and what sources where used to train your model?

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No, though I'm not really sure how it makes a difference. If I used a different model that was made using less resources what would be improved? Both already exist, using one over the other would not save any energy.

Edit: To go back to the BG3 comparison, I don't know how many resources were used to make the game, or what sources the developers pulled from. I play it because it's fun and another person enjoying it doesn't cost the world anything (except a little electricity)

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