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Pharma manufacturer Gilead making available at cost (2 million doses in most needed countries) while generics are developed and can later be distributed. Decent play from a Pharma company.

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

incredible news. i am saddened for everyone lost during the last 44 years.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As am I, but don't stop counting yet. I'm sure this administration will guarantee many more are lost.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I am glad that it's going to countries with the most need first. Lessens the chance of being wasted or withheld.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s so nice to have these vaccines to protect us and allow us to live a fuller life…. I wonder what republicans are gonna do about it?… or is Kennedy gonna stop it from hitting shelves?

[–] paranoia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just want to be clear to anyone reading that this is not an HIV vaccine, it’s a long-lasting antiviral medication. Similar therapies have been approved since 2012, and an injection that lasts for two months was approved in 2021.

The main benefit of a once-every-six-month injection is for people at high risk with very limited access to healthcare. PrEP is great but this is a fairly minor improvement to existing therapies.

To be fair to those calling it a vaccine, it is a preventative medication administered by injection twice a year. For a layperson, that sounds like a vaccine.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I've seen the word vaccine appear at least 5 times in this thread. It's weird that people are going there.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This would be a whole lot more uplifting without the news about getting rid of the woke preventative medicine panel.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 1 month ago
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wow! AIDS was a death sentence when I was young, no chance of survival.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It still is bad. This is a prevention vaccine not a cure vaccine.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

True, although the treatment also got a long way with people living hood lifes for many decades after initial diagnosis now. Also I heard they had some success actually curing HIV in a lab environment using some kind of modified retrovirus. That will most like still take till the 30's before it becomes available though.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uh, a vaccine is a preventative, not a cure. That idea is contained in the definition of "vaccine".

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Sometimes "passive vaccine" is used to describe an injection of antibodies to directly fight an ongoing disease.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

its been survival with proper treatment, no longer getting AIDS. of course there are people that still engage in risky behavior, and 1 person made news with untreated HIV a tapeworm gave him cancer, the tapeworm got cancer and gave the guy with hiv tapeworm cancer, which is unheard of.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Go look up side effects of medications. Even if controlled, your kidneys and liver are in for a bad time.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you could just link to the side effects?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That depends on the medication in question.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oh so you're just.. blanket stating that medications are bad for your kidneys and liver?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Or, perhaps, I take these and am repeating what my doctor says? Why are you being hostile? Yes these save lives but they are not perfect. I experienced such severe abdominal swelling that it caused me a hernia that required surgery. You read that correctly: HIV medication cause me a hernia severe enough to require surgery. Now is there some other part of my life that I should expose to you so that you can judge me across the internet?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This was apparently on June 18. Here's NBC's coverage of it: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-hiv-prevention-drug-prep-lenacapavir-rcna208387

I'm trying to find other outlets that confirm "The makers are also providing affordable access to the drug in the US and beyond, signing royalty-free licensing agreements with six generic manufacturers to produce and supply it.", which NBC's article doesn't say.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh that's cool! If you find the source please do share (or post it again! This is good news).

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sadness. We'll need the vlogbrothers on this then.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 1 month ago

Insurance Companies: nah.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Great! Now we preferably need something that we don't need to use twice a year, and we could actually vaccinate everyone.

Because realistically, most people will not take a vaccine twice a year just in case.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Gay men are at a much higher risk for HIV so they may take it twice a year.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Around the world, MSM (men who have sex with men - not necessarily gay) are 25 times more likely than average to contract HIV, reports UNAIDS. (healthline).

Among MSM, Black and Hispanic men are at higher risk than white men of contracting the virus, reports the CDC.

This may be because, according to a 2017 source, Black and Hispanic men are less likely to take preventive medication. The reasons for this include the stigma surrounding same-sex experiences and enduring racism, discrimination, and racist systems.

Also, HIV also tends to affect people in under-resourced communities with less access to preventive HIV care.

Physical factors include the protective lining of the anus being thinner than the wall of the vagina, increasing the risk of transmission.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for additional info! For particularly endangered groups, this may make all the sense to take it, then.

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean I just went to see if I could get a Covid shot at cvs and without insurance it was going to cost $200, so these same communities who typically can’t afford insurance, probably won’t be able to afford the vaccine.

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 1 points 1 month ago

There are free clinics in some areas specifically serving these communities for this reason. Disproportionately impacted by thr disease, and more likely to be unable to pay due to economic disadvantage.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Peter Marks was forced out of the FDA by Trump, in part for refusing to spread disinformation about vaccines. I didn’t think we’d be able to believe anything they say for the next few years.

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah but Trump pulling funding means people who need it can’t afford it. I guess if a person has HIV and voted for Trump… they wanted that? Weird.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cool, can I get this shot when I get my flu shot?

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 1 month ago

if everyone got the shot, we could eliminate HIV forever. it would be like polio, a bad dream that we shudder to think about but don't fear.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought you were only supposed to get the flu shot once a year?

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah but it would motivate people like me to get around to it

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And it only took doctors and scientists 5 decades. Not bad. 👍

[–] stoly@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Twice a year injectables are very scary to me because an adverse reaction is something may last more than half a year. You could be in for a bad time.

ETA Before getting angry, read my response below.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Speaking as someone with HIV, the worst part is actually the medication. I’ve literally spent at least 6 months at home at various points because the side effects are so bad that I sometimes need a week or two to adjust to any changes. I’ve had to try 6-8 combinations just to find something whose side effects were light enough that I could work. One caused me such bad abdominal distention that I couldn’t eat solid food for about 1.5 years and I formed a hernia that required surgery.

So yes, for me, most of them are genuinely worse than dying.

Now I think you were just saying something rude to me a moment ago.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wasn’t trying to be rude. It just seemed like you were suggesting the preventative injectable could be worse than AIDS itself, and I was genuinely asking why that would be scarier.

I’m sorry you’ve had such a rough experience with HIV treatment. That sounds genuinely awful. But just to clarify, the medication being discussed here is preventative, not treatment after infection. It likely has a different side effect profile because its purpose is prevention, not management of the disease.

If anything, your experience actually makes the case for a reliable preventative even stronger.

I understand where you're coming from based on what you've been through, but I think we're talking about two very different situations.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Sorry for the late reply, I've been moving. I appreciate your response, it was a kind message.