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The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza..

Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”

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[–] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can I just say FUCK The Democratic Socialists of America, those scumbags can eat a bag of dicks.

Just look at their stances, views, and activities:

  • They blame the US for the Russian invasion of Ukraine
  • They want the US to pressure Ukraine to surrender to Russia under the guise "negotiations"
  • They want the US to leave NATO
  • They support the Venezuelan dictator, Maduro, so much that they literally sent a fucking delegation there to meet him
  • They organized a tone deaf pro-Palestinian rally on Oct 8th right after the attacks when the world was still in shock
  • They outright want the destruction of Israel. Not a two state solution, not coexistence, but the eradication of Israel
  • They quite literally want open borders
  • The organization is full of full blown vile Marxists who to "abolish capitalism" and establish socialism
  • They condemn social democracy
  • In 2016 they refused to endorse Hillary and spearheaded the movements that called for people to boycott voting Democrat, which led to Trump winning
  • In 2020 they refused to endorse Biden and spearheaded the movements that called for people to boycott voting Democrat, which helped Trump make the election closer than it should've been
  • In 2024 they're doing the same exact thing by refusing to endorse Biden again

They have ALWAYS simped for all the dictators and authoritarian regimes. They have always had the most brain dead stances on foreign policy issues. They subscribe to a colossal failure of an ideology, and their interests are not with the US succeeding. They are nothing more than assets of our foreign adversaries.

The organization and movement at large is nothing more than the far left and the most whacko of Bernie Supporters that even he is uncomfortable with. I'm glad AOC went from being a fringe extremist politician to becoming more pragmatic and moderate. She has been winning me over more and more lately, and this just proves that she's moving in the right direction. Once again, the DSA can get fucked.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao bro just found out about leftist politics and is PISSED

[–] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the far left has always been vile, but the DSA is especially annoying because they actively hurt the Democrats and help the Republicans.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Because Democrats are not leftists, they routinely sell-out their leftist constituents and their policy goals in favor of maintaining the status-quo (e.g. reactionary - see

collapsed inline media@TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
's comment)

Any genuine socialist/leftist can recognize the democratic party is adversarial - of course they are going to be antagonistic toward them. That they recognize or support any democratic representatives is amazing, frankly.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man I was with you until you suggested abolishing capitalism was a bad thing. Why is that a bad thing?

[–] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me ask you this, why can't we regulate capitalism to work for us? Just think of what we can do:

  • Greatly expand and enforce strong environmental regulations
  • Expand and enforce anti trust laws to break monopolies
  • Improve working conditions
  • Remove money from politics
  • Ban lobbying
  • Increase the minimum wage to something livable and tie it to inflation
  • Improve the justice system to hold CEOs and other big executives accountable for any crimes they commit and punish them accordingly
  • Tie worker wages to CEO salaries or company revenue
  • Fix all the tax loopholes and have corporations and billionaires pay their fair share
  • Improve the social safety net so people can have their basic needs met
  • Expand regulations to protect consumers
  • Expand regulations for price gouging and enforce them
  • Update our outdated zoning laws to allow for the building of more houses
  • Remove the shitty regulations that prevent public transport from being built
  • Ban any attempts to equate corporations with people
  • Implement ranked choice voting and get rid of first past the vote
  • Change the way we measure the health of the economy from GDP and stock market trends to things like median income, life expectancy, levels of happiness, mental and physical health, childhood success rate, rates of substance abuse, crime rates, social mobility, and so on
  • Incentivize companies and people that do more to help their communities and punish those that actively harm them

These are not radical ideas and they're not new, these are all already in place in capitalist societies all around the world. We know they work and we know capitalism works, so why not make it better? Capitalism doesn't have to be this dystopian reality where corporations own everything and everybody else lives in poverty struggling to make ends meet. It could also be this great system that is centered around humanity and works to the benefit of the people. A system where the value of a person matters more than a dollar amount. These ideas aren't antithetical to capitalism. Capitalism is just tool, it's a flexible one too, there's nothing stopping us from shaping it to serve us and our values. Why not pursue that instead of trying to pursue some an ideology that has literally failed? After so many attempts, so many failures, so many people killed, when is it time to move on? Marxist socialism isn't the way forward, it's a way of the past.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because all that is absolute and total fantasy. Capitalism does not allow for any of it. And even if you can succeed temporarily and installing any of it capitalism will find the crack and destroy it. You're trying to fight against the nature of a thing. The absolute core tenant capitalism is the exploitation and enslavement of the working class. The only incentive, only, is more short-term profit. That's it. Anyone who thinks you can do anything else is dreaming. Capitalism is incapable of surviving in a pluralistic society. Capital is incapable of adjusting to the needs of a society as a whole. Capitalism is incapable of taking into account the needs of the many versus the needs of the single. You cannot fight against that, that's its purpose.

There is a reason that capitalism tends to lead to fascism.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems -1 points 1 year ago

Making life less shitty through policy is an act of solidarity.