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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 161 points 6 days ago (1 children)

considers altering entire network stack to trick a Switch 2 into thinking it never leaves EU soil

"Nah, I'll probably just not buy one. Fuck em."

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Steam Deck, nothing more than Steam Deck...

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I kind of want to pick one up, but i can't get a clear picture on if I should wait for a steam deck 2. From what I could find, they want to wait until there's enough of an upgrade to be worth it. At one point that suggested around 2025, but more recent stuff makes it seem like they're not even working on one, and other stuff hints that they are.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 11 points 5 days ago

My cousins and I had this discussion and I'm like, "I dunno, I'm happy with it."

It's an indie/AA machine with 6th-gen retro perks. I'm good. That's my niche.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 8 points 5 days ago

Get a Steam Deck OLED if you want a Steam Deck. Don't wait for a hypothetical next version. I have both the LCD and OLED, and while both are excellent, the OLED is a slight improvement in a few days (lighter, less bezel, 90hz instead of 60hz, obviously you get an OLED screen, and the CPU/GPU are a tiny, tiny bit beefier).

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago

if I should wait for a steam deck 2

there will alaways be The Next Device. There are no real hints that it will release anytime soon.

So if you're interested in picking one up, now is a good of a time as any. You can also save some money by getting a refurbished 64GB model and upgrading the ssd yourself (takes just a couple minutes, a screwdriver and a thumbdrive with usb C to reinstall steamOS)

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[–] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Are there switch 2 emulators yet?

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 91 points 6 days ago (3 children)

prevent access to online services...that's all they should be allowed to do. I don't think I'd be able hold back on any company that decided what I do with MY hardware.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they going to brick the console they better refund the money.

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[–] fistac0rpse@fedia.io 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Online services includes firmware updates, and many new first party games require the newest firmware as of release to be installed

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

That is what they do. It's an online ban, you can still use a banned console offline.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (22 children)

Untrue, full console disabling is possible rendering it unusable for any content online or offline

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[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 84 points 5 days ago (1 children)

better consumer protection says what

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It says "Sign the Stop Destroying Videogames initiative if you can"

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Americans can't sign it, but the law would absolutely benefit American gamers.

If they have to do the legwork to leave the games in a playable state or pass it to the community, American gamers will be able to participate.

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[–] blobchoice@feddit.uk 76 points 6 days ago

Common European W

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because in the US, you guys aren't really consumers (which would give you a status), you're merely walking and vaguely sentient (hopefully enough to click on "add to cart") wallets that the corporations pluck money from at every opportunity. This is your legally enforced reality.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Remember, when tech bros complain that Regulations Stifle Innovation, this is the kind of "innovation" they're talking about.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They want to innovate some more money out of your pockets.

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[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, their shitty attitude towards consumers is why I won’t be getting a switch 2. So they can try bricking my asshole.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 36 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Lol, why even buy such a piece of shit then? Even when in the EU, the fact they do this is enough.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 21 points 6 days ago (20 children)

Because Banana!

But no, seriously, you can rage all you want about brands and corporations, but in cultural industries content is always king.

That's why you need regulation. You can't expect people to not play or watch cool stuff just because you're aware of and latched onto some particular moral, ethical or economical transgression. It's res publica to prevent the misbehavior so people don't have to have a stance on the extent of licensing for software/hardware combo services whenever their kid wants the cute gorilla game.

And yes, I do own a Switch 2.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Seriously! Just buy a used 3DS and hack it to run every game, emulator, etc. You can actually play DOS games and ScummVM games on it!

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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Nah, they can, but likely won't risk it w/European owners’ “rights.”

Change the headline a little bit.

[–] troed@fedia.io 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

"litigation" is not really how we usually talk about consumer's rights in Europe though. As the article clearly states:

the legal framework in Europe is much more protective of users. The corresponding laws understand that disabling a device for unauthorized access to software is an excessive and illegal measure.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's the same with my American friends who does not understand that we have house loans, not mortgage. They still call it mortgage, but that's a completely different setup altogether!

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[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

It’s less about rights and more about "consumer protection"

[–] Goten@piefed.social 18 points 5 days ago

i stopped buying nintendo after wii. fuck them

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's gonna be a shame if H4ckerM4n2015 may brick you Switch after loosing a game of Mario Kart.

Vulnerability for me, not for thee, right?

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

yo ho, all hands, hoist the colors high,

heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die.

The current management of nintendo will never figure it out. Piracy is the competition. It's not about getting the thing for free, it's about getting a better service. I'd buy mario 3 again (again) if that meant I'd get a rom I could run on my pc through FCEUX and enjoy all the features/enhancements that software offers. There's a handful of gamecube games available on switch2, but all of them are better through Dolphin than what official hardware can offer. Nintendo's refund policy is a joke. The eshop is unpleasant to use. Even ignoring all of that, the original switch only had a handful of actual first party titles, not enough to justify the console's price tag (and each those were merely ok, not enough to justify buying a console for one game).

sega sells their games on steam, and while I don't like the emulator they use I can at least say that I own a legal copy of sonic spinball.

[–] coldasblues@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yet another reason for you peasants to throw down your pitch forks and accept the all mighty PC as your lord and savior.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 11 points 5 days ago

Nintendo: "you bought our hardware, but we will brick it if you don't use it in exactly the way we like!"

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nintendo, you are supposed to be the good guy company remember?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Sadly the good guys retired and left the company with the rats.

[–] Chill_Dan@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I started pirating my Nintendo needs last generation and it runs so much better. Never buying from this anti-consumer company again.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

This was the final straw for me, I'm done with Nintendo.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Hmm... How to use Switch 2 from behind a VPN so they think I am in Europe?

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Gonna go ahead and guess; buy it in EU, turn on your vpn, connect, setup, register. Keep your vpn turned on perpetually. Maybe you'll be required to have a european bank issued card when you make purchases as well.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or just get a steam deck, or another device you can install your own software on. This for me is a reason I never would get an iPhone. Although I don't have a ton of apps from outside the playstore I do want the option. Maybe my next phone will just be a Linux phone.

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