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Having fucked up social discourse with Twitter and then Bluesky, Jack Dorsey claims he has seen the error of his ways, and definitely won't do it a third time with his new nonprofit aimed at helping developers build and deploy (OSS or commercial) social media tech built on the Nostr platform (with AI!). Yeesh, I might be biased. Maybe I shouldn't be writing these summaries.

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[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 74 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

At a certain point, people stop telling you “no” and then you end up with a gold nose ring and hippie beard. Dorsey probably hasn’t heard a “no” since 2006

[–] fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

If you tell that that's a hippie beard in my local metal bar... You might be politely corrected because we are awesome.

Also, punks and metalheads get beards and rings too.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

Yes they do but ‘ol Jackie boy looks neither punk nor metal in this photo. He looks like a douchebag

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 39 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Jack Dorsey should just fucking stop.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Why is he so hated here? Twitter model is one thing that is kinda fit for global-open-decentralized approaches without much difference for the user. I could never use it, but plenty of people do and seem to have a feeling of hivemind over it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

Because the tech he makes is inherently terrible and despite being used in a positive way it is still centralized and ripe for misuse by people like Musk. On top of that the long term feasibility is based on advertising potential to get the funding.

He says positive stuff most of the time but his actions are the opposite. Blusky is supposed to be decentralized, but the structure as it exists requires it to actually be centralized when implemented. Plus his most recent 'secure' thing wasn't even tested for security issues because he is a hype man who constantly lies.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Figure head syndrome. Literally a man with money, otherwise completely unremarkable

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is "better than Zuck" a valid argument?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Not really, I have stepped in dogshit was better than Zuck.

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 36 points 12 hours ago

Mel Gibson-looking ass

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Looks like he and Zuck have the same stylist. Anyone know what this look is called, with the oversized tee and chain around his neck?

[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 16 hours ago

The word you’re looking for is douchebag

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

But techbro 10 years ago was an undercut and a leather jacket. I'm hoping there's a label for this iteration.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 11 points 12 hours ago

Those were the web-techbros. Then came the crypto-techbros, now we have AI-techbros. Very different styles, as you can see.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

All styles have some variation within them.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

He looks like he’s turning into Mel Gibson.

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 7 points 13 hours ago

Techno King Asshole. TKA for short.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago

Dear Jack:

Please go back to playing with Square and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

Thanks.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago

Like it or not, Nostr is the only one that doesn't tie my identity to a server. I've lost several Lemmy accounts during the Reddit migration and I've had to subscribe to new instances all over again. Once it's down, really hard to migrate anything

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like nonprofit should come with default quotations nowadays. At this point it's just a way to avoid taxation during development until you have a feasible route to profitability.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

don't you avoid taxes anyway if you're not profitable?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 7 points 14 hours ago

Nah, you still end up paying state and local taxes. Income/revenue is different than profit.

Plus, being a non profit allows for people like Jack to utilize donations as tax deductions.

[–] Philamand@jlai.lu 14 points 15 hours ago

Thank you for the article, it was an interesting read. I don't think he'll make anything better than Mastodon or even Bluesky so I won't try Nostr, but I'll keep an eye on it. It may be interesting to follow.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what went wrong with Bluesky?

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 15 points 14 hours ago

He doesn't like it because it's the same as twitter according to him.

Journalists don't like it because they get called out on bullshit there.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 13 hours ago

jack hates trans ppl and trans ppl made bluesky what it is.

[–] Noodles4dinner@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

I would like someone to pump 10 million dollars into Jack Dorsey. In nickels, through a hole in his throat.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

What are the differences between Nostr, AT Protocol and ActivityPub?

[–] artifex@piefed.social 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I think the main one is that Nostr is supposed to be really simple, and derive some security/privacy from that simplicity. Whereas ATProto and ActivityPub store and forward content so that each rely has a copy, on Nostr nodes the messages are all ephemeral. So it has something of a following with crypto bros and privacy enthusiasts. With nostr IDs are also based on public/private keys unlike ATProto/ActivityPub that use a username@instancename scheme, so signing and identifying content that belongs to a user is easier and more guaranteed to be correct, and your username isn't tied to any specific server "instance"

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago

That's more complicated than a short comment can summarize

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not sure he's the one who fucked it up.

140 symbols and the whole atmosphere I don't like, but I have my own fair set of disorders.

Hashtags are honestly a good idea, just like a social system organized around them.

Except I probably would prefer that to be similar to modernized Usenet. Actually going to pressure my family members to install Briar, want to start using it, and apparently it has such a functionality. Not sure yet. Anyway, the framework under it (right now Briar itself is the only application, but authors have ambitions) definitely would support such a thing. Maybe I'll finally have an incentive to learn Android development.

[–] artifex@piefed.social 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I kinda agree Twitter was born of a more innocent age, and he was just a tech kid with a good enough pitch to get Silicon Valley VC. The problem is that he did little to rein in powers that were purposely using the platform for social manipulation. Then -- when he already knew better -- he went and started Bluesky, which he specifically said was going to counteract all of Twitter's deficiencies, but capitalism got the better of him, so to make the platform attractive to VCs, advertisers, whatever, his team started to ditch what made Bluesky unique in favor of business tools to help it make money. Business is gonna business, it's not 100% his fault, but I can't imagine what will change a 3rd time around.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Well, that Bitchat thing of his may (after, eh, fixing a lot of it) turn to be not so bad.

Though I went to the Briar site, and apparently it's not just Briar, but also a framework for virtually everything communications-wise offline-enabled.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 1 points 35 minutes ago

Good luck if someone picks an iPhone.